>ANsi in 1.8.? hugh.. how.. I am still moding the patch out to get it to >work.. what did you use??? how did yo uget it to work??? I got it to work >in 1.7.9p2 .. but not 1.8? not yet.. Hm.. the ANSI PC doesn't use any patches. it's all done in-MOO. As long as you can get an escape and a beep in the db (use a text editor, or FUP or a chr() patch if you have one) it takes care of it. 2.1 works fine in 1.7.9p2 and later.