>If you want a property secured, so noone can edit it (except a wizard, >they can edit anything) just @chown the property to Hacker (or $noman, >$noone or who ever you want to use...) and set it -c. so any children of That's bad if you chown stuff to $no_one, since you can use $no_one:eval_d and $no_one:call_verb to screw with stuff like that. $no_one shouldn't own anything, Hacker is a better choice.