Judy Anderson writes: > So what's the reasoning behind object_bytes() giving E_PERM for > nonwizzes? I even did it on an object I owned! It reveals information about the contents of properties and/or verbs that you might not otherwise be able to read, so... Handy tip: even wiz-only functions can be protected with $server_options, and then you can use a wiz-permed $bf_FOO() to open it up for everyone... :-) Pavel