Is there a db patch that will fix @create to make it work on a 1.8.0p4 moo? I tried to look on one 1.8.0p4 moo that I know of, but it won't let you read very many verbs. And I can't look at lambda (it isn't 1.8.0p4 anyway is it?) since I don't have an accout. Mcarns