We also saw an increase in the moo's CPU usage and ram usage since upgrading to the 1.8.0p4 server, yet our db has grown maybe 100-300K (this moo is not public yet) and the moo executable is also stripped. Maybe another mem leak ? (ps: our ram usage grew by about 2 megs, and CPU went up a lot more. this is a lot for a small moo) Any ideas? Justin Harris