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Simone Demmel (neko@greenie.muc.de)
Wed, 23 Sep 1998 22:49:01 +0200


Hi,

On Wed, Sep 23, 1998 at 06:17:23PM +0200, Randy Harmon wrote:
> Yes, a java-applet would be nice.

Yes, and most I would like it to have the viewfax behaviour (perhaps an
additional menue for the friends of buttons)

> Compared to the space taken by full-size images, storing at thumbnail and
> maybe a 640-pixel-wide size really shouldn't eat all that much space.  As

The solution I wrote creates a picture on the fly if it is asked the first
time and stores it on the disk. I think, this is the best way. (I've never
seen a harddisc without 'out of space'. I don't know why, but I can buy
what I like it is full in very short time... ;-) - that's why the pictures
only are generated if someone needs them.)

> approach eliminates the need for the client to have a helper app or the need
> for a java viewer.

Well.. I've had some tests here today in the LAN (!! 10 MBit!) with small
sized pictures and full sized Pictures. I was not happy with the
transmission-time and the time netscape needed to view the picture, I hope
this will be much better, if I can create a quick and small Java-Applet
(Gert has had a really good Idea for this code, it is implemented
somewhere, but in C and  not in java :-) )

> I was offering a method of easy implementation that did not require storing
> the image on the server in multiple sizes, nor resizing at the server
> on-the-fly.  We're storing common sizes on disk and serving other sizes
> on-the-fly as required.

Yes, this is the middle way, to pregenerate some common sizes. But we have
faxes here, that are never shown so it is a little bit senseless to create
pictures for them and Gert has nearly 500 Pages in his incoming
directory (he is a ... I forgot the name...'small anymal that collects
everything'). That's a lot of discspace, if you count: 200k fullsize +
10k thumbnail ~= 100000+5000 ~= 105MB discspace for some stupid faxpages.

> > image, like those in /image with about 8 pixel-size and try to view them
> > with width="450" height="600")
> Certainly, but downsizing the thing isn't going to have that same effect.

You don't want to transmit a fullsized Image just to scale it down untill
it is unreadable. Or to say it the other way round: I don't like to wait
for so much data, just to see a small thumbnail picture. (just to find
out if the coverpage has some information or is simply a logo).

> > I hope, you understand the point.
> Yes... complex issues, with different "correct" answers depending on
> a person's specific priorities.

:-) yes. I try to generate something that also works on a system with
chronical small discspace, a small line to the internet and not too much
CPU-Power...

If you have enough disc-space, it won't be a problem to hold 100%, 50%,
25% and 75% for every picture.

neko
PS: when do you plan to buy a dual-p... for greenie? ;-)
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