Revelation

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Praise the Lord all!

Let me preface this by saying that it looks as though I
have been at odds with Rev. Blume (felt that way at times
too) but I am not.  From what I can tell from the exchanges
that we have had God has given him the Spiritual side heavy
on salvation and has given me the 
literal stuff heavy on symbolism.  I see and appreciate the
things that Rev. Blume writes and like I have said time and
agian I agree with much.  I think however that neither of
us, or the two of us together have it all.  I mast say that
if we can achieve a "melding" that there will be much
gained.  I offer things to think about.

Rev. Blume:
 If taking the little book is salvation, then what might
the nature of the contents of the little book be with
redemptioon in mind?  It must be tied to redemption, for
taking the book initially certainly and plainly involves
redemption.

Me:
I believe that the contents are the names of the saints of
the Church 
with the names of the 144,000.  I believe that this is the
Lambs Book of Life.
 
Rev. Blume:
..is due to the fact that the taking of the  book is indeed
referring to redemption.  We must work from THAT
standpoint...

Me:
If this is the Book of life it changes the face of the
interpretation of the entire book of Revelation.  Jesus
recieves the "coupon" for His property, us.  It has seven
(the number of judgement) seals on it.
As each seal is opened you have a judgement moving into
place but not being executed.  These judgements paralell
the creation.  The rider of the white horse is clearly a
"leader" and could easily be compared to "light" since he
conquers with a bow and NO arrows.

Rev. Blume:
...All seals broken off.  If the taking of the little book
is redemption, what would the fully opened book represent?

Me:
This is GREAT!  Once the seventh seal is broken and the
book can be opened then Jesus can CLAIM HIS PROPERTY.  The
property has to be where He is and then He proclaims the
contents of the "book" which is the "reciept" for His
Bride.  This is a double edged sword since if you are found
in the book then you are caved but if youare not then you
are left behind.
 

Rev. Blume:
 IOW,  the taking of the little book reperesents
redemption.  That is solid.  And the little book is opened
throughout chapter 6, causing us to keep the thought of
redemption in mind, for the book is still involved.  

Me:
I can only add that the book represents salvation for those
who are in it but damnation and execution of sentence. 
Every man is judged
after death and at the end of every dispensation but "there
is therefore now no CONDEMNATION for those who are in
Christ Jesus!"  This first judgment entails one one crutial
element, are you in the book?

Rev. Blume:
> And when the seventh seal is opened the seven trumpets
are 
> kicked into effect. IOW, the seven trumpets are part of
the 
> seventh seal.  So the little book is STILL involved.  One
thing 
> leads to another and it all began with the little book
being initially
> retrieved by the Lamb, Christ.  The seventh seal contains

> the seven trumpets.  So what has all this got to do with
opening 
> a book which was initially taken in indication of
redemption?

Me:
When the seventh seal is opened then can begin the
execution of sentence for those that are in Christ AND for
those that are not.
The sentence has already been passed and has only awaited
the "fulness of time" for execution.  This is not the FINAL
judgement but is the judgment that comes at the end of the
Church dispensation.  Every dispensation (age) ends with
judgment.
 
That is enough for now.

Timothy Litteral
472 Grant St.
Marion Ohio 43302
trlitteral@usa.net
http://members.tripod.com/~trlitteral