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Rev. Blume:
> Not be so flat in my response, but I must give a
conclusive "Wrong."
> 
> 1 Cor 3:17  If any man defile the temple of God, him
shall God
> destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye
are.
> 
> This verse uses the term "TEMPLE OF GOD".  Is it
"exclusively" used
> for the "building" that stood on the temple mound?  No.
> Is this a reference to what you would call "John's day"? 
Yes.
> John was alive and well when this verse was written.
> 
> So your premise is not correct, brother.

Me:
No, actually that premise is not correct.  You have still
not shown that this is what Paul meant but only what he
COULD have meant by the statement.  My statement above was
from memory of something I read about the translation of
the KJV and I cannot support it.  I have looked but cannot
remember where it is that I read this and the supporting
arguments and cannot reproduce them from scratch.  This
latter point can be disregarded, my next point provides a
reasonable explanation of how the son of perdition COULD be
standing in a literal building.  You have raised nothing
that would exclude this.  It is also very possible that
this son of perdition is sitting in BOTH the Temple of God
(body of a believer) as a cognizant, willful blasphemer of
the Holy Ghost and in a literal building on the Temple
Mount.
> > The next point made was that God must somehow approve
of
> > the Temple for it to wear the title "Temple of God" but
> > what about when the Temple was used for the worship of
> > idols?  It was still refered to as the Temple of God.

Rev. Blume:
> The same thing can be said for our bodies.  

Me:
I have forgotten to state that I think you are correct
about the interpretation of us being the Temples of God and
even if I cannot prove that this term was used
"exclusively" for the building it is it cannot be proven
that it was used exclusively for the body of the believer
by any means.  This term applied to the building until it
was destroyed by the Romans and will be applied to the
Temple that the Jews are in the process of funishing and
prefabricating as I write.
Is it logical to assume that they will indeed build this
Temple and dedicate it in the name of Jehovah, Jehovah
STILL being A name of God?

Rev. Blume:
Let me clarify myself and say that Revelation certainly
speaks of endtimes, but not so much as has been promoted,
nor, I feel, in the manner it has been promoted.  

Me:
AMEN!

Rev. Blume:
And I feel that salvation and spiritual growth are spoken
of MORE than endtime events.

Me:
O think they are interwoven but as I said a little later
that the salvation aspect is the most inportant.
 
Rev. Blume:
> The world will end.  What is most vital when that world
ends?  
> It is the salvation and spiritual growth of God's people.

Me:
A resounding, AMEN!

Old me:
> > What I will do is to post this on my site and will
freely
> > discuss this in private with anyone.  You see my dear
> > friends, this message is the one that God has "hidden"
in
> > the book for nearly two thousand years and means for
ALL to
> > see.

Me:
I think that these little rebuttals between Rev. Blume and
I are profitable.  What thinketh the group?
 
> It has been an open book for 2000 years, and not hidden. 


Me:
Yeah, I meant that the references to specific endtime
events were "hidden" in the salvation message.

Old me:
> > Like I said, there are other things of value in the
> > Revelation, but salvation is the most important.
> >
> > I am certain that unity is more important than the
marginal
> > value of the knowlege to be obtained.

Rev. Blume:
> Exactly.  Thanks for your thoughtful points, brother!

Me:
I think this is a much better way to present my ideas and
allow Rev. 
Blume's INSPIRING analysis to remain predominant.  I have
heard 
salvation preached from Revelation but never by a Oneness
preacher.  I have seen many of these things personally but
haven't had the oportunity to "examine" them.  This is a
good thing.

Timothy Litteral
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