We Who? - time to end?

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Bro Berger:
>>>From the PC of Bro Berger:
>
>That is gonna drive those Mac users over the brink! Haha * )


I was once one of those...I still have a set of disks for first "beta"
test of Word and Excel - most dont remember they where on the Macs first
:o)

>>And I never will said that " a person who has experienced what we
>>define
>>as salvation, yet attends another church is lost". They are saved in a
>>biblical manner and organizations are not important. However, what
>>about
>>calling a person who has ***NOT*** experienced what we define as
>>salvation, yet attends another church lost. That is the issue...Bro
>>Reed, Sis Yohnk or myself have never stated that a person that has
>>been
>>born again in the manner we call the plan of salvation (repentance,
>>baptism and infilling of the Holy Ghost) that attends a church other
>>than ours is lost. What we have stated is that if you have not had
>>such
>>a time of obedience to the Word and the rebirth experience then we can
>>not say they are saved...they will be judged by their works then. BTW
>
>Seems to me that Bro Starcher has been saying right along he believes
in
>the Biblical method of salvation.


yup, he does....it is part of his Apostolic faith in his Apostolic
experience that has lead him to understand the Apostolic Perspective of
salvation.

Now all those adjectives (the word Apsostolic) give the impression that
there are many different faiths, experiences and perspectives. This
gives the impression that he acknowledges the Biblical plan of
salvation, but yet believes there are other ways to be saved.

Paul wrote that there is ONE faith, ONE baptism so why in a list that is
supposed to be totally Apostolic is the very root of our (and yes I
speak for many apostolics here) doctrine being watered down. Are we
heading towards a "kindler gentler" doctrine are we leaving the items
that separate ourselves from the denominal world for sake of fellowship
(all the while we are meeting them on their terms!). I hope not...if so
then we will be the church of Ephesus and one day be chastized for
leaving our first love.

>
>Me b4
>>>I choose to send to the list. Sorry.
>>
>>
>>I am glad you did...I have nothing to hide, no hidden agendas no
>>personal motives. All I desire is that the truth have its day.
>
>Thanks Brother for saying this. I appreciate you replying to my reply.
I
>do not want to see the heated flares we saw on this series, like we did
>before. I do not mean to frustrate you either. I can't myself remember
>your posts you referred to. I heard yesterday that we forget 80% of
what
>we hear in 48 hours. Must have been more than two days ago?
>If you have the time, can you included the urls in the archives? If
not,
>I may get this done.


In the future I will try...

Lord Bless;
Bill


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