Who we? time to end

"Bill Clifton" (@nettaxi.com)
Tue, 30 Mar 1999 07:41:31 -0700


Bro Berger:

>I penned this on the weekend, and wanted to have the other moderators
read
>if first. I wanted to know if they saw a bad post. They did not, so I
now am
>going to send it. I am in agreement with Bro Moore and his rules. I
want ALL
>to  have equal opportunity here to post. Generalities, and prejudices
do not
>help us. We are here to examine the Apostolic Doctrine and how we may
>present the Gospel to a dying world.
>
><soapbox mode off>
>
>Ahem! (yes a large throat clearing for attention)
>I guess what is starting to even get under the moderators craws, and is
>irritating to this moderator is the above analysis.
>
>You seem to state-
>
>He does not believe the way I do, I believe in Biblical Salvation as
shown
>by Repentance, water baptism by immersion- with the name of the Lord
Jesus
>Christ, and the infilling of the Holy Ghost evidenced by speaking in
other
>tongues as the Spirit gives utterance.
>
>You also seem to state that if one is not attending an Apostolic
church,
>then this cannot happen. I have now pointed out that there are some
fully
>Biblically saved in the above definition.


I repost part of the post you quoted:

  >>And I never will said that " a person who has experienced what we
  >>define as salvation, yet attends another church is lost". They are
>saved
  >>in a biblical manner and organizations are not important. >

Seems like I said exactly the opposite of what you claim I said (I am
getting used to that...must be the red-neck pennmanship). Let me see if
I can clear it up....

Ahhhemm...
This is what I believe....IF one has obeyed the Word of God and
repented, been abaptized in the Name of Jesus Christ and recieved the
Holy Ghost....they have all "tools"  to be saved. As I have previously
stated the Holy Ghost is not the end of salvation but the beginning. The
church, org or group they belong to is not important...obeying the Word
of God is.

>This list is about ideas. We all have ideas. We all have bad ideas and
>thoughts also. I want to hear from you, and Bro Reed, and even Sis
Yohnk.
>Why are the three of you singled out? Because you seem to be the most
vocal,
>yet seem to not get it. I will herein begin to show you where differ in
the
>discussion and are so fully sidestepped over the way you
>_think_others_think, that you almost do not think yourself.


I think I am starting to get it!

>I see a stalemate occurred in the last round. No one won, yet we all
lost,
>for discussion stopped. Let's get off the attempt to show Bro Starcher
as a
>liberal, and glean what we can. Let's go on and re-examine the threads
Bro
>Clifton presented earlier (go on and repost them Brother). Let's see
some
>others post to the list.
>
>Let's move forward, we have been down these roads before. They were
bumpy
>and unpleasant


Moving forward is in the picture....

Bill Clifton.


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