Source of the Great Tribulation

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>     Because the posttribulation rapturist refuses to distinguish between
>the tribulations of this age, which the church will endure, and the unique
>and unprecedented period of tribulation which shall come on the earth, they
>insist that the rigors of the tribulation come only through the agency of
>man or of Satan, but disassociate God from the period entirely.

The difference that THIS posttribulationist sees is that the time of
tribulation that is coming upon the church is a time of....as Brother
Litteral as said I believe...Of satan pulling out all the stops.  His days
being numbered and the kingdom he is desiring to build coming to power he is
the source of the tribulation that comes on the church...now during this
time there 6 of the seven of the vials seals and trumpets poured out...Just
as with pharoah....UPON egypt but not touching Gods people.  and as the
seventh trumpet is blown and God beginst to pour out the "Fierceness of His
Wrath" He comes with those saints who were dead in Christ...and then WE
which are alive and remain shall be caught up to meet Him in the air...and
we will continue on with Him as he comes to destroy those who destroy the earth.

>     The tribulation period will witness the wrath of Satan in his animosity
>against Israel (Revelation 12:12-17)

Yes... But one must understand that he is not a Jew who is one outwardly but
who is one inwardly...Jesus was the True Isreal...we are his seed...we are
the the Isreal of God...the 42nd Generation...God is not concerned with any
particular nation...only one HOLY nation and a PECULIAR people. GOd made
many promises to Abraham and his seed and the church was the fulfillment of
those promises..

De 14:2  For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God, and the LORD
hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all the nations
that are upon the earth.

The church IS that peculiar people...We are the only Isreal that God is
concerned about.

>his animosity against the saints (Revelation 13:7). 

right...and as I understand it WE are saints...some folks want to change the
definition of saints in Revelations from chapter 4 till chapter 19 when the
marriage supper of the Lamb occurs...

>     Scripture abounds in assertions that this period is not the wrath of
>men, nor even the wrath of Satan, but the time of the wrath of God.
>
>	Isaiah 24:1 ...the LORD maketh the earth empty...

AMEN...No problem with that...at the seventh trump...the FIERCENESS of His
wrath that will definitely be so.

>	Isaiah 26:21 ...the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the
>	inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity...

Yes He does...and brings the dead in Christ with him...and the we which are
alive and remain will be caught up to meet Him in the air

>	Joel 1:15 ...as a destruction from the ALMIGHTY shall it come.

AMEN...
>	Zephaniah 1:18...Neither their silver nor their god shall be able
>	to deliver them n the day of the LORD's WRATH...

INDEED...nor their gods or their houses or their lands for he will utterly
destroy them in that DAY...


>	Revelation 6:16-17 And said t the mountains and rocks, Fall on us,
>	and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and
>	from the WRATH OF THE LAMB: for the great day of HIS WRATH is come; 	and
>       who shall stand?

YES AMEN...that DAY has come....The tribulation time is one thing but then
cometh the Great and Notable DAY of the Lord...the day of the FIERCENESS of
His Wrath.

>	Revelation 11:18 And the nations were angry, and THY WRATH is
>	come...
AMEN

>	Revelation 14:7...Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of
>	HIS JUDGMENT is come: and worship him...
RIght

>	Revelation 14:10 The same shall drink the WRATH OF GOD....

AMEN....SHALL DRINK....a lot has happened so far in Revelations but the
scripture is still saying SHALL DRINK

>>	From these Scriptures it cannot be denied that this period is peculiarly
>the time when God's wrath and judgment fall upon the earth. This is not
>wrath from men, nor from Satan, except as God may use these agencies as
>channels for the execution of His will; it is tribulation from God. This
>period differs from all preceding tribulation, not only in intensity but
>also in the kind of tribulation, since it comes from God Himself.

AMEN  this is the GREAT and NOTABLE day...this is the FIERCENESS of His
Wrath...Whick comes at the SEVENTH TRUMP...the last one...the sevent vial
and the seventh seal...You will notice that the vials and the seals and the
trumpets ALL most definitely end up at the same point in history....and run
basically side by side the entire time of Revelations...They seem to be a
telling and retelling of the same time period...but the first 6 of the seven
are DIFFERENT than the last...that tribulation that you quote scriptures for
in your post is that last and terrible day...when He pulls his people out of
here and they ride with him as he pours his wrath out without mixture...the
FIERCENESS of His Wrath....

Joe W. Chancellor
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