Jacob's Trouble aka The Tribulation

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Very, very good, Bro. Copes!  I would like to add a thing
or two (three maybe) ;-) 

You:
      The Gentile believers of the present day, while
reckoned as A seed to Abraham, are not THE seed in which
national promises are to be fulfilled.

Me:
The promises to Abraham's "Seed" are to Jesus.  Jesus is
Abraham's Seed and the "promises" are Ye and Amen in HIM. 
(Listening Dave?)  When has Jesus ever ruled in Jerusalem? 
This means the real place BTW, not the New Jerusalem
either.

You:
>      No, the entire 7 year period is the time of God's
wrath. The events of Revelation from the beginning of
Jacob's Trouble to the Second Advent of Christ will occur
within a period of 7 years.

Me:
Yep!  The Great Tribulation refered to up to chapter 8 is
the trying of the church in the years just prior to the
rapture as is stated "these are they which have come OUT of
(the) great tribulation."  Tribulation ends here; the word
is NEVER used again, and the Wrath begins with the 144,000
being excluded.  There are more Jews on the Earth than the
144,000 and MUCH, MUCH, MUCH Wrath FALLS on them!  Add to
this that the Great Man of Sin persecutes the 144,000 Jews
and you could certainly call this period "Jacob's Trouble."


Timothy Litteral
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