Why are you classified as a cult?

suprdave@lightspeed.net (suprdave@lightspeed.net)
Mon, 12 May 1997 13:24:37 -0700


Listen folks, I gave an honest observation as to why. Then I get flooded
with all these responses. Listen, I'm going to quit responding. If you want
to continue to straighten everybody out, be my guest. But this is
ridiculous. I think that you all should save yourselves from this untoward
generation. I'm more interested in seeing one converted to Christ rather
than responding to misunderstandings...I gave an honest observation (just my
opinion, that's all). I believe all the verses Andy quoted. But they apply
to you just as they do me. You could be missing it somewhere. And is God
going to send you to hell because you may have failed to oberve one thing?
I've already obeyed Acts 2:38, so this is a dead issue. I've taken care of
my part already. I am going to trust God to take care of His part. 


Andy's original post:
At 10:27 AM 5/10/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Once upon a time Kathy wrote (and quoted):
>
>>>"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, 
>>>shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; 
>>>but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."   
>>>Matthew 7:21
>>>
>>>Just because one confess or professes to believe in, follow, or 
>>>even serve Jesus does not mean that person will not be lost. 
>>>It is those who DO the will of the Father that shall enter 
>>>into the kingdom.
>
>Dave replied:
>>None of us can be God nor do any of us knows the heart of man. (snip)
>>
>>The best thing to do is "not worry" about who is saved or who is not saved.
>(snip)
> What I mean is, if there
>>are those who claim to be Born Again, then Praise God! Don't scrutinize them
>>and tear them to shreds because they are not "Apostolic".
>
>
>I reply:  (Sorry for the long quote but I thought it was necessary for context)
>
>
>Matt 7:13-21
>13	Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the
>way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
>14	Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto
>life, and few there be that find it.
>15	Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but
>inwardly they are ravening wolves.
>16	Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or
>figs of thistles?
>17	Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree
>bringeth forth evil fruit.
>18	A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree
>bring forth good fruit.
>19	Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into
>the fire.
>20	Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
>21	Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the
>kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
>(KJV)
>
>Notice in verse 15 that it says "Beware of false prophets".  Notice in
>verses 16 and verse 20 "Ye shall know them by their fruits."  How do we
>determine those things if we aren't willing to scrutinize?  How do we
>"beware" if we simply accept everything that every person says that "claims"
>to be saved?
>
>You see Dave, I don't "scrutinize" people to determine if they are saved or
>not.  I scrutinize them to see if they have followed the plan of salvation
>that God has laid out in His Word.  
>
>I have no other basis on which to base it.  Either they follow the plan
>according to Acts 2:38 or they don't.  If they don't then the best I can
>tell, they are lost.  I then have a responsibility to reach out to them and
>introduce them to the Biblical plan of salvation.
>
>If God chooses to save people by a plan that is not in His Word, that is
>God's business, but I have to respond according to that which God has laid
>forth in HIS WORD.
>
>Andy (Acts 2:38 is still the only way) Gossett
>
>