Salvation the Pentecostal Way

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Brother shaw:
Save your keystrokes on the comparison between myself and Catholics.
I've no use for such rubbish.  Being Apostolic will naturally cause 
us
to identify with an Apostolic history and understanding of the New
Testament.

Bless you.

Bro. Matthew Shaw

ME:
I know amen posts aren't allowed, so, I'll just say "Hallelujah".  
Although brother starcher seems to be revealing what he believes to 
be "truth", his 'truth' indicates that what we believe to be truth 
must be doubted or we are <Lord forbid> "Conservative Apostolics".  I 
have never seen someone contend for your faith as you have, brother 
Starcher.  It is very unique.  In trying to promote unity with other 
denominations (Which is very admirable, if you are building up, not 
laying down), you have caused dis-unity between what you consider 
Moderate and conservative Apostolics!   The Apostles would turn over 
in their graves!  In the true Apostolic church, their is no doubt as 
to what biblical salvation is.  Although we are always "making our 
calling and election sure", we are not doing extra-biblical worrying, 
if you will.  Although we are checking our lives and beliefs by the 
word of God, we are not comparing our evangilism to that of other 
organizations.  Although we want to encompass the entire world with 
the gospel of redemption, we are not inviting to world to encompass 
the church with foreign ideas of "unity".  Although we promote unity 
with all peoples, we do not unite in their beliefs.  Although we try 
to reach-out to other churches with love and compassion, we do not 
allow outreach to become that of falsehood and comprimise.  Although 
we realize the church is in need of external attitude adjustments, we 
do not feel that this will come by changing the inward fundamental 
beliefs in salvation and holiness.  Although we want to present the 
soft side of the gospel, we do recognize that our gospel is a bloody 
gospel.  Although we respect the right of others to beleive 
differently, we do not recognize that right as an excuse for us to 
embrace a gospel we know as false.  Although we promote the 
progressiveness of the peoples within the Apostolic church, we do not 
believe that this means we should progress without the Lord.  And 
finally, although we recognize and respect that others within the 
faith may have a different outlook on Christ and his work in their 
lives, we do not try to obtain the identicle outlook and works.  We 
do not define them as a moderate Apostolic or as Conservative.  We 
(by this time, I guess I should say "I", but I'll go along with the 
flow) believe that this demeans that will of God in their lives.  We 
feel that by doing this, we have divided our faith into one of 
"Dynamic outreach and excitement" and "Standard doctrines, beliefs, 
and respectable worship within our own ranks."  This should not be 
true, for I see the Apostolic church as a whole being "Dynamic in 
doctrine, reaching out with its beliefs and having exciting worship 
within our ranks and in the ranks of others."  I hope I have not 
inferred that Brother Starcher is not an Apostolic or is a member of 
a false church.  None of the above is true.  I simply state that what 
you perceive as "moderate" Apostolic Christians are nothing more or 
less that a conservative.  And that what you perceive as a lack of 
outreach, may be a lack of comprimise with other doctrines.  Yes/No?  
(BTW, if brother starcher would like to reply, please do so in one 
post without essays.  I love your essays but I cannot absorb 6-7 
pages of information.   I printed the other articles but I think I 
missed 1 or 2. thanks =>)  God bless.

P.S.  I realize that by saying "We" I might have offended someone.  
But, I simply wanted to convey this is a clear manner.  By saying "I",
 the message would have been one of personal conviction, but I 
believe it to be one of common concensus and aligning with the Word 
of God.  Thank you for excusing my we's. =->

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In Apostolic service to our Lord Jesus Christ,
Josh Allen {LSVH37A@Prodigy.com}
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I affirm the biblical foundation for a relationship with God: We are 
to turn away from doing wrong, be baptized in the name of Jesus in 
accordance with scriptural examples, receive the marvelous gift of 
the Holy Spirit, and embrace a daily walk with Him. (See Acts 2:38)
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