Deion Sanders
Tyler Nally (tnally@iquest.net)
Sat, 30 May 1998 01:48:33 -0500
At 09:50 PM 5/28/98 +0100, you wrote:
>Attn. Moderators:
>Please inform Anneliese that I did not make the statement about the CAPS
>please...She thinks I put that in. I didn't make a statement regarding
>the Caps. Thank you!
>
>> I respond:
>> Dave, it is obvious that the Caps in this case were only there so his text
>> could be easily read from the other texts. I certainly didn't think he was
>> trying to be rude or shouting. In fact, I appreciated that for once, I
>> could see right away who said what.
>>
>Dave responds:
>I didn't say anything about the Caps...the moderators did. Please refer
>back to that post.
That is a correct statement. Bro Dave Vivas didn't put the remards
in there about e-mail communications in UPPERCASE letters. What I did
was ... since there was a post posted in all CAPS (which is warned against
in the H-F netiquette document when everybody first subscribes) and there's
a reply to that post. And especially questioning the spirit of the post.
I'm to assume that part of the misinterpretation of the original post could
very well could have come from the SHOUTING AT THE TOP OF THE LUNGS AS THAT
POST DID. Which can really overemphasise a message.
Usually posting in all caps is mostly a mistake that a newbie (internet term
for someone new to the internet that doesn't know a majority of the customs,
protocols, and net-ettiquette) would make. Here's what the H-F netiquette
document says about posting in all CAPITAL LETTERS ....
>>>A. Does your post contain WORDS that are in ALL CAPITAL LETTERS!!!
Caution should be used when posting in ALL CAPS because it is commonly
equated to SHOUTING very loudly. Many folks can be offended by
CONSTANT or ABUSE OF CAPITAL LETTERS in a MESSAGE because of its STRONG
EMPHASIS.
If you want to emphasize words in a sentence. Maybe you should try
using double-quote marks "like this" to draw attention, or maybe
asterisks *like this*, or possibly even underscores _like this_.
There are times when writing in a CAPITAL LETTERS may be appropriate.
If you need to find out how it would sound, write the message with the
choice words in CAPITAL LETTERS. Then read it back to yourself. If
the words or phase that is EMPHASIZED by the capital letters sounds a
little peculiar when you repeat the CAPITALIZATION at a "shouted level"
in your mind, it's probably too strong of an emphasis and you need to
choose a different way to *emphasize* words without _shouting_ at the
other saints.<<<
So... in this case, the original post could be *flavored* towards a
really angry or preterbed sense because it was delivered at a very
high volume level (the way UPPERCASEIZATION is interpreted commonly
in e-mail) making it open to such meanings.
In this case, when the replyor (Bro Dave Vivas) spoke of the spirit
of the post, he could have very well gotten the spirit of the letter
via the UPPERCASE (potentially angry) WORDS PREVIOUSLY POSTED.
My action, when Bro Dave Vivas post came through, was to discard his
original post, then re-post the discarded message of Bro Vivas through
a web interface I've invented that allows me to add a moderators note
to the original message and still allow the post have the posted identity
of the original sender. When that post (the one with the moderators
note comes through), it's approved and send back to the listprocessor
for distribution. This isn't done very often, but necessary to point
out the possibility (in this case) of why that particular reply was
valid from the standpoint of the poster.
I personally thought that the message could very easily have had a
very bad spirit (interpreted by the uppercase letters) or a very
"who cares-ish, big woop" kinda spirit if proper use of letters were
used. Either way, the spirit was, IMHO, in question and Bro Dave Vivas
called the original poster on it.
Bro "sorry for the confusion" Tyler
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