"Why no Trinitarian will be saved"

Mark Bassett (mbasset@iconn.net)
Thu, 01 Aug 1996 05:41:13 GMT


On Tue, 30 Jul 1996 22:56:21 -0400, you wrote:


>> The former I can do nothing about, but the latter is my business and
>> yours as we are concerned, and indeed charged with the responsibility
>> of teaching. If it is nesessary in the course of teaching to remove
>> what is false and contrary to instill what is true, and we fail to do
>> so, we have NOT taught.
>
>This is an impossibel task for man. No one really knows, unless some new 
>discovery is brought to light. weither the Bible is accurate or not. 

The Bible is accurate.

>Depending on the spirt to guide us in this disconsernation has resulted 
>in the splitting of the churches into seperate factions.

It is the failure to depend upon the Spirit to guide and the refusal
to yeild to the atuhority of scripture.
 
>> Matt 16:19  Go ye therefore, and  teach   all   nations , baptizing
>> them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
>
>This is one of the disputed scriptures, that has put many churches at 
>odds with one another. There are implications that it is fact an additon 
>to the Word. A pollution.

No, this was not added. This scripture is legitimate and genuinely
from the mouth of Jesus Christ. There is no contest or controvery
about it, except as suggested when true Bible scholarship fails. Matt
28:19 is a very strong witness to the Oneness of God.
 
>> > We must not enacte judgement on  our brethern
>> >because it is fobidden, at great cost to us, for us to do so.
>> 
>> What is judgement in this context ? Is it not judgement to neglect the
>> soul that is lost, and the heart that is in bondage?Jesus said Judge not an be ye not judged. There should not be a problem 
>with interpretation. If you give the message of salvation. you have down 
>Your part of the Work of God. Teach if asked Questions. It is Jesus who 
>saves the lost soul..... NOt you or I. We are powerless in this regard.

Im sorry, the commission is in the manner and form of the Lord Jesus
Christ. As he was sent, so the people of God are sent. We who are the
children of God have the authority to bind and loose and to remit sin,
and to impart understanding (though God alone provides revelation
attending to the teaching ministry of the church).

Jesus Christ can and will save no one EXCEPT by the gospel which is
comitted to the church. Having KEYS comes with responsibility and
gravity. The answers concerning the power of the church are simple,
but difficult for the world to comprehend.


>	Your implications render Jesus Christ as a powerless figure that 
>cannot affect the hearts of men. 

I could not disagree more strongly.

> If man or the ordainated bodies (churchtes and ministires I assume) were capable of doing the grand job 
>of saving souls, Jesus wouldn't have been crucified on the Cross. 

We preach and teach only Jesus Christ and Him crucified. There is no
premise at all that we can do anything but what God enables. We do not
suppose that there is power except as provide through the atonement.
But when the church is empowered to preach the gospel and reach the
lost, vain philosophy will not provide excuses for withdrawing from
the task. 

> In fact, it is because of our lack of understandong of the scriptures that 
>broght God to this point. 

No, it was the separation of God and man, and the love of God that
desired to bridge that separation that compelled the plan of God for
our salvation. It was because of His love for fallen man. 

Understanding the word could do nothing for man once he was separated
from God. That is a gnostic idea condemned by the Apostles.

>Remember, the Word of God was on  earth before 
>Jesus was born. It was not interpreted properly by the "Ordained" powers 
>that exsited at that time. Jesus is the one who works the miricals. We 
>can only spread the message and prompt people to read His Word. He will 
>do the  rest. If you must work...... tend to the widows in your 
>church.......

Perhaps I am misreading your tone and misunderstaning your content. I
will chose not to reply to these remarks.

>To think that we have the power to save anyone is to take 
>a vain approuch towards the work the Lord has set before us. We are 
>powerless.

We are powerless ? Does this idea concur wiuth scripture in your
estimation  ?

If you dont mind my asking, do you attend an Apostolic church, John ?