debate with an AOG member (ROTFL)

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Fellow H-Fer members:

This Brother on here  who has been watching the discussion on the
Assembliesof God list in my mind was quick to judge me.  I have many
 people who can back me up as not being a guy with the wrong kind of attitude.
When I joined the A/G list, I did not do it to argue with them.  The first
thread I replied to was one about their beliefs and their faith statement.
I asked if I could see what they were, and stated that I knew they were not
like mine so I wanted to view them.  I was replied to by someone on there
that asked me why I said 'you people.'  (I am not a member of the A/G so
I mentioned them as 'you people'.  Obviously he took offense to that.
Second I replied to a thread about homosexuality.  They for some reason
see no wrong in it. I said I felt it was ok to witness to the homosexual,
but beyond that, we should not fellowship with them.  I used the verse that asks,
"What has light with dark?"  They jumped on that and me for being "unkind"
to the homosexual.  Then, I replied to a thread that was also already started
about oneness and the trinity.  At first, I asked simple questions regarding
the trinity.  They were quick to attack me saying I need to use Biblical reference,
which I was just not actually putting the verses on the post.  I then started
using the verses and such.  They then accused me of something called
"proof" texting.  I said that yes, I was using the Bible to prove i'm right.
At this point the discussion turned debate was overblown.  I seen that
and so did some of the members.  I admit I did get a little fiesty when
a few pesonal attacks on me came to me off-the-list.  Those members
were the same ones who broke down *every* word I used and tried to
find fault in everything BUT the Bible.  I backed off and so did some of
the member,(not all).  At this point, I dug down deep.  I am not an expert
at all on the trinity vs. oneness but really felt that the points they made,
all non-biblical, were wrong so *I* used the Bible to reply from that point
on.  No UPCI material, no books discussing the oneness, nada, zilch, nothing.
I stayed up from 9pm to 3am recently replying to the discussion.  I personally
found a lot of scripture and did a LOT of reading in the Bible that night.  Verses
kept coming to me that I never even thought about until then.  I know that God
was showing me these verses.  The whole post was very positive and
never rude.  What happened after I posted that?  I got many replies and NONE
had verses or use of the BIble.  They all talked about the history of the church
and how the trinity has existed for a long time and so it is right.

SO, I have yet to *flame* anybody.  I have been flamed by them many times
before I even responded in the wrong manner.  That wrong manner I had in a
few post ended very quickly.  And for my ruining the chances of converting them?
A few told me up front when we started the discussion, I was wasting my breath
because they were not going to listen.  This is the attitude they had from the
start.

Now back to me.  If you were to meet me before judging me Brother,
and I do not mean that in a bad way, you will find I am one that is very
kind and loves to discuss things with "rational" people.  You have to know
that on a computer it is hard to see feelings.  Because I was discussing
oneness, they were ready to attack.  Since you were watching the discussion
you will notice that I went to bow out of it with a final post I had that asked
*everyone* on the A/G list to pray that if what I was saying (oneness) was right
then that God would show it to them.  This post was VERY kind and in NO way
rude and they attacked me!  What was the reply?  One member called praying
to God for him to show you something, a cultish thing.  You will also notice
that I posted a list of questions regarding the trinity and they refused to answer
them.  I answered their questions but they said mine were ludicrus because it
said God was One and not three.

Oh well, I better end this post, it is about a mile long now, but want you to know
that I am not a flamer nor do I act anything like this Steve Winter guy.  I am
deeply offended and upset that you would be so rash to say such a thing.  I am
growing in Christ just like many people are and I am curious about the oneness
vs. trinity discussion, because of this, I am apt to join in on the discussion.

Whats wrong with saying im a One God Apostolic red escort pony driver?  :P

C.Sterrett