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Brothers and Sisters, I am sending you a copy of a post that went to the
Newsgroup that I post to.  It is a post of mine, and response of one of
the writers, on the newsgroup in a rebuttal to me.


> Subject:
>             Re: 1913!!Truth Revealed after years of darkness!
>        Date:
>             Sun, 22 Aug 1999 00:44:16 GMT
>        From:
>             dkelvie@integrityonline4.com
>          To:
>             roblin@bellsouth.net
>  Newsgroups:
>             alt.religion.christian.pentecostal
>   References:
>             1
>
>
>
>
> Hello RD,
>
> You posted:
>
> >There is that year again. I am sure it was a good year to some folks,
> >but
> >why don't you try 33 A.D. ???? or before, like the beginning of all
> >existence.
> >Hear O Israel, the Lord our God is One Lord.
> >
> >If the heathen had defiled the true Church with it man made devilish
> >doctrines,
> >the Truth would not have be hid from the World within the walls of
> the
> >Great
> >Whore.  Again, you non-oneness folks, have you ever heard of the
> >reformation.????????????
> >
> >Man hid the truth of the Gospel, but God is still restoring His
> Church,
> >and
> >making His Bride ready!!!  He is coming from a Bride that is called
> by
> >His Name.
> Dennis wrote:
> First real nasty error!  Jesus' church was NEVER LOST, therefore
> cannot be "restored."  Jesus was not so stupid that He would start a
> church that would fall, and He, the Angel Gabriel, and the Apostles
> all said things that show it COULD NEVER HAVE FALLEN or failed.
>
> Your religion is based upon a false premis.
>
> >If a bride would not take on her husband's name, I am sure he
> >would think
> >again before receiving her as his own.  Why would God except anything
> >that is
> >not perfect, and take on His Name.
>
> Since Jeezus (that is how you PRONOUNCE "Jesus") was NEVER what His
> mother Mary, the Apostles, or His disciples called Him, why don't you
> "oneness" people use His REAL NAME?  You could easily call Him
> "Yohoshua," the Hebrew Name His mother Mary gave Him.  THEN you might
> claim you were "right" on this issue.
>
> But as long as you use a phoney "anglicization" of the name instead of
> the REAL THING, you are Biblically illiterate FAKES.
> Robert Wrote:
> >Why the non-oneness people, even
> >refuse to
> >be Baptized in His Name, like the Word declares and instructs the New
> >Testament Church to do.
> Dennis wrote:
> Let's see if that is what Jesus said to do. . .
>
> Matthew 28:18  And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, "All
> authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.
> 19  "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing
> them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,
> 20  teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am
> with you always, even to the end of the age."
>
> Did JESUS say to baptize "in the name of Jeezus?"  NOPE.  He said to
> "Go. . .baptizing them IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND THE SON AND THE
> HOLY SPIRIT. . ."
>
> I'll Go with HIM!  THAT IS WHAT_HE_ SAID!
> >Robert Wrote:
> >No, No the revelation of the One God message may have come out to
> some in 1913,
> >but there has always been a One God Apostolic Church, even if it it
> was far and wide, the People of the Name have always been there.
> Dennis wrote:
> And the followers of the heretic Sebellius have always lied about some
> things:
>
> 1.  You have lied about us Trinitarians.  You have claimed that we
> believe in more than one God.  We don't.  We keep telling you we
> don't.  But you claim to know more about what we believe than we do
> and you INSIST that we believe something we have NEVER believed.
> We believe in 3 PERSONS of ONE GOD.
> YOUR KIND lie about us.
>
> 2.  You have lied about Jesus.  You have put Him into a position where
> He either "fakes" praying to His Father and in a position where He
> "fakes" His Father speaking from elsewhere (ventriloquism?), or some
> of you claim that He LIES, saying He IS His own Father.
> Robert wrote:
> >Naturally, as I repeatedly
> >say, the known operating church for hundreds of years, was a
> >backslide apostate
> >trinitarian church, that taught 3 persons in the godhead.
> Dennis wrote:
> Sorry that YOU must believe that the RCC was the TRUE church of
> Christ.  For a while, it was part of Christ's church, and there are
> today True Christians who are members (but don't subscribe to all the
> tripe) of it.  But the RCC was NEVER all of Christianity at any time!
> Robert wrote:
> >Ancient Jews,
> >even at
> >the writing of this fallacy, would probably rent their clothes, and
> go
> >down in
> >sackcloth and ashes?????
> Dennis wrote:
> They probably rent their clothes and went down in sackcloth and ashes
> when they had Jesus crucified too.
>
> Do you want to defend the Jewish beliefs regarding Christianity and
> claim they are right?
>
> In Christ Jesus (the REAL ONE, Yohoshua)
> dennis
>
>
>

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Subject: 
            Re: 1913!!Truth Revealed after years of darkness!
       Date: 
            Sun, 22 Aug 1999 00:44:16 GMT
       From: 
            dkelvie@integrityonline4.com
         To: 
            roblin@bellsouth.net
 Newsgroups: 
            alt.religion.christian.pentecostal
  References: 
            1




Hello RD,

You posted:

>There is that year again. I am sure it was a good year to some folks,
>but
>why don't you try 33 A.D. ???? or before, like the beginning of all
>existence.
>Hear O Israel, the Lord our God is One Lord.
>
>If the heathen had defiled the true Church with it man made devilish
>doctrines,
>the Truth would not have be hid from the World within the walls of
the
>Great
>Whore.  Again, you non-oneness folks, have you ever heard of the
>reformation.????????????
>
>Man hid the truth of the Gospel, but God is still restoring His
Church,
>and
>making His Bride ready!!!  He is coming from a Bride that is called
by
>His Name.  
Dennis wrote:
First real nasty error!  Jesus' church was NEVER LOST, therefore
cannot be "restored."  Jesus was not so stupid that He would start a
church that would fall, and He, the Angel Gabriel, and the Apostles
all said things that show it COULD NEVER HAVE FALLEN or failed.

Your religion is based upon a false premis.

>If a bride would not take on her husband's name, I am sure he
>would think
>again before receiving her as his own.  Why would God except anything
>that is
>not perfect, and take on His Name.  

Since Jeezus (that is how you PRONOUNCE "Jesus") was NEVER what His
mother Mary, the Apostles, or His disciples called Him, why don't you
"oneness" people use His REAL NAME?  You could easily call Him
"Yohoshua," the Hebrew Name His mother Mary gave Him.  THEN you might
claim you were "right" on this issue.

But as long as you use a phoney "anglicization" of the name instead of
the REAL THING, you are Biblically illiterate FAKES.
Robert Wrote:
>Why the non-oneness people, even
>refuse to
>be Baptized in His Name, like the Word declares and instructs the New
>Testament Church to do.
Dennis wrote:
Let's see if that is what Jesus said to do. . .

Matthew 28:18  And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, "All
authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.
19  "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing
them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,
20  teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am
with you always, even to the end of the age."

Did JESUS say to baptize "in the name of Jeezus?"  NOPE.  He said to
"Go. . .baptizing them IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND THE SON AND THE
HOLY SPIRIT. . ."

I'll Go with HIM!  THAT IS WHAT_HE_ SAID!
>Robert Wrote:
>No, No the revelation of the One God message may have come out to
some in 1913,
>but there has always been a One God Apostolic Church, even if it it
was far and wide, the People of the Name have always been there.  
Dennis wrote:
And the followers of the heretic Sebellius have always lied about some
things:

1.  You have lied about us Trinitarians.  You have claimed that we
believe in more than one God.  We don't.  We keep telling you we
don't.  But you claim to know more about what we believe than we do
and you INSIST that we believe something we have NEVER believed.
We believe in 3 PERSONS of ONE GOD.
YOUR KIND lie about us.

2.  You have lied about Jesus.  You have put Him into a position where
He either "fakes" praying to His Father and in a position where He
"fakes" His Father speaking from elsewhere (ventriloquism?), or some
of you claim that He LIES, saying He IS His own Father.
Robert wrote:
>Naturally, as I repeatedly
>say, the known operating church for hundreds of years, was a
>backslide apostate
>trinitarian church, that taught 3 persons in the godhead.  
Dennis wrote:
Sorry that YOU must believe that the RCC was the TRUE church of
Christ.  For a while, it was part of Christ's church, and there are
today True Christians who are members (but don't subscribe to all the
tripe) of it.  But the RCC was NEVER all of Christianity at any time!
Robert wrote:
>Ancient Jews,
>even at
>the writing of this fallacy, would probably rent their clothes, and
go
>down in
>sackcloth and ashes?????
Dennis wrote:
They probably rent their clothes and went down in sackcloth and ashes
when they had Jesus crucified too.

Do you want to defend the Jewish beliefs regarding Christianity and
claim they are right?

In Christ Jesus (the REAL ONE, Yohoshua)
dennis

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