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"Robert J. Brown" (rj@eli.elilabs.com)
Mon, 23 Aug 1999 01:06:47 -0500


>>>>> "Dave" == Dave  <suprdave@lightspeed.net> writes:

    Dave> G.W. Sullivan wrote:
    >> Brother, I am not sure how to get to the discussion gtoup you
    >> named, nut I'd >be glad to check it out. I get on Pirch from
    >> time to time, and go to >sites like #christian and
    >> #apologetics. There you will see ALL kinds of >rabid
    >> anti-oneness people.They really DO hate us. They tolerate
    >> witches >and athiests, but not Jesus name people.  If you'll
    >> get me TO the site, I'll sign up.  Bro. Sullivan

    Dave> Dave responds: That's interesting...Jehovah's Witnesses say
    Dave> everyone who disagrees with them hates them...Mormons say
    Dave> the same thing. My point? Just because one may disagree with
    Dave> another on theology does not mean they hate you. They may
    Dave> disagree with you doctrinally, but that's no reason to
    Dave> accuse them of hating. Don't throw the baby out with the
    Dave> bath water. Do you hate trinitarians? If you answer "yes",
    Dave> then you need to repent. Do you disagree wtih them? If you
    Dave> answer "yes" you have the right to do so and yet not hate
    Dave> them. Please don't accuse them as such. I've heard some
    Dave> hateful things said about trinitarians from Oneness
    Dave> preachers through the years growing up...and I recognized it
    Dave> as being a direct attack on them rather than dealing with
    Dave> doctrine. Two wrongs don't make a right.  It's time to grow
    Dave> up and quit fighting with others who love the Lord.

AMEN!  And thank you Bro. Dave!  I totally agree with you on this.  I
know Jesus told the Pharisees to their faces what he thought of their
practices, but he died for them too, and at least one, Nicodemus,
understood what he was doing and not only questioned him, but also
paid for his embalming, and it was the embalming for a king, which
indeed Jesus was, and therefore very expensive.  I cannot prove it by
the scriptures, but I sure suspect that Nicodemus was in the upper
room on the day of Pentecost.  

Jesus did not hate the Pharisees, but he did expose their error to
them.  I do not see where he did this openly to shame them, but to
make them think about what they were doing.  The Pharisees certainly
loved God, as they gave their entire life to his service.  It is just
that their worship was empty of the real meaning that Jesus had to
offer.  He wanted them to know that, and that he knew that, so they
would consider what he had that they were missing.  

We need to do the same with people whose doctrine is not in agreement
with ours.

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