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GKL (gklentprs@earthlink.net)
Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:57:10 -0400


>Will God keep all of them out for teaching and preaching Trinitarnian
>doctrine concerning endtime events?
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Jesus didn't say: "except ye are totally correct in your understanding
of endtime events ye shall not enter into the kingdom of God", .....He
said we
*must* believe that He is the one true God that was manifest in the
flesh,
(not a "second person of a trinity") and He also said we *must* be
baptized in His name in water and filled with His Spirit
or we cannot enter the kingdom of God.

"I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye
believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins."  John 8:24

"Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born
of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God."
John 3:5

Now a very long time ago before I learned the apostolic truth I was a
Baptist for a while and then I was a "trinity penetcostal" for a while,
so I have first hand
experience of how they believe and as far as what they believe is
*required*
for salvation the trinity pentecostals believe the same way as the
baptists do,
that you simply believe Jesus died for your sins and ask Him to come
into your heart by praying the "sinner's prayer", both believe that when

you ask Jesus to come into your heart that you then have received His
Spirit as needed for
salvation, the trinity pentecostals look at being "filled" with the
Spirit as a seperate "optional"
experience for those who want a deeper walk, and I know there were those

who were satisfied to forego receiving that "optional" experience
fully believing they were saved without it, just like the baptists do,
in fact I remember the trinity pentecostals using the same salvation
tracts as the baptists do.

(I say all this *not* with any attitude of superiority for none of us
have any right to feel that way,
it's only by the grace of God that any of us are where we happen to be
at in life, but simply with a genuine concern for souls to be saved)

Now having said that, I have a question for anyone or everyone to
answer:

Which course of action would show genuine love for souls:

1.) To not even try to explain the apostolic gospel to Baptists and
      trinity-pentecostals, but just let them believe as they do and
hope they will make it anyhow ?

2.) To care enough to (with the right attitude) try to help them see the
Bible plan of salvation ?

(Now there is a right way and a wrong way (and attitude) to try to reach

them, when dealing with individual souls you *don't* say something like
"well, you're wrong and
I'll prove it", of course not, the best way I ever heard to use when
trying to show anyone a truth from
the Bible about any subject, is to say in a pleasant tone of voice,
"well, let's see what
the Bible says" instead of you just telling them what is what from your
own words, because it's a lot
easier for someone to disagree with your words, then to disagree with
God's Word :-)

There are ways that people can be spoken to as a large crowd and ways to

talk to individuals and these ways are definitely not always
interchangable.

John didn't mince words when he spoke to a group of people:
"But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his
baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers,
who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?"  Matt. 3:7

In II Timothy we have:
"And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all
men, apt to teach, patient, In meekness instructing those that oppose
themselves; if God
peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the
truth;"

Whether we are speaking to a crowd or to an individual, if we stay
prayed up God will give us the right thing to say at the right time !

The bottom line is not proving others wrong, the bottom line is that as
many souls as possible experience genuine salvation !

Bro. Gary