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"LES" (lrsulk@provide.net)
Fri, 27 Aug 1999 23:24:26 -0400


I'm LES,  new to the Higher Fire list.  I will give a brief description of
myself  before I jump right in here, so you all will know where I am coming
from.  I will state right from the get go, that it will take me a while to
find the scriptures that I might need to type for references, but I do have
knowledge about the word of God.  I have been in 3 Jesus Name churches in my
saved lifetime.  The first church was an all black congregation (I am white
not that that even matters).  In that church I learned the *true* plan of
salvation.  The second church I went to, which I will not reveal the
organization, taught me to be loyal and faithful to the work of God.  The
third and present church is teaching me to live the life of a Christian.  It
has been a difficult road.  Things I feel I should have learned in the first
two churches I am learning now.  I feel like I have failure to thrive
disease spiritually speaking.  I have listened more and read less.  I
believe through this list and one other that I am on, I will be *forced* to
search out scripture.  So PLEASE bear with me.  Most of what I will say will
be opinion, but good opinion (I hope).

Now for the jumping right in part:
People who think that God's word has changed are being deceived by the devil
himself.  Any time you have to question whether it is real or not, you
should automatically realize ole split hoof is dipping his claws in the pot,
and that  you were probably ready to really get a revelation about something
and he detoured you.  When you stick to one version, I feel you would seldom
get confused from so many  different meanings.  I do sometimes check another
version if I lack understanding, but that is not the one I read on a regular
basis.
Satan will do anything he can to get us to lose out with  God.

<snip>Can we honestly say that God truly loves Trinitarian believers without
 the "and's, if's, or but's"???
God loves us all.  I have seen and heard of God **Mightily** using someone
who is trinitarian.  Maybe they have not been shown the truth as of yet.
You know God's timing is *perfect* timing.  God could be bringing them to
the place where He can reveal Himself to them.  Maybe no one has shared with
them the truth.  And all of what they believe is not a lie.  Look back to
before you received the truth.  Did you become *all* knowledgeable the
moment you believed?  No I think not.

<snip>If they don't come to the fullness of the truth (I am talking about
repentance, baptism In Jesus Name and infilling of the Holy Ghost) than they
will go to hell.

Do you mean to tell me, if some one who was not saved, truly repents and
gives his/her heart to God and gets killed or dies somehow,(before they can
get in the pool of  baptism or pray through) that they are going to hell?
God's grace is sufficient.  We are all on different levels of grace.  We
CANNOT decide what God will do and not do with  people who are doing all
that they know to do at the present time.

Hope I was not to wordy for my first dive.  This might not be a regular
habit.  You caught me a rambling mode.
LES