The point of this entire discussion is that one wonders if we should use terms in our pulpits that are in scripture but not as pleasing. And as asked before when do we address this? If a word is a filthy word on the street but is shown in the King James Bible do we sidestep it? or does the terminology shown to sinners cause them to think further of just where they are. Brian Berger Manchester, NH Brian_Berger@JUNO.COM