Christmas Trees

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> >Some of our churches contain members that wear earrings (the men), which
> >I think is way out of line. But, I also know of a UPC church where the women wear pants to
> >church and men musicians are homosexuals....

> I would hope this is not a major UPC church. (don't you dare name even
> the state) I would have a major doubt any pastor would use a homosexual
> for musicians. Musicians are a little weird but this looks extreme. As
> far as earrings, well I am sickened by the thought of that more that the
> music. One of my online friends who is AOG has his picture on his web
> page and he says he even wears his earring when he preaches. As far as
> the pants, a growing church will have some come in who do not fit the
> standards since they are new. If this is a UPC church and all this is
> going on I would be suprised to see UPC affilation come the next year. I
> do not think that UPC folk are the only way but in the past when a church
> has gone to the left they are usually left out. We lost the largest
> congregation in our District and one of the finest buildings also to a
> group that showed some of the same warnings.  I remember going to a
> church some years ago that was so friendly that the men would get hugged
> by the women and vice versa. How sad that when I visited then I never
> even got a handshake.

I think I would be more appalled by the homo in the music department than someone wearing an 
earring. I don't care for the women in earrings or other jewelry other than a wedding band, but 
as you said, in a growing church with more and more people unfamiliar with the Apostolic 
traditions, we will begin to find more and more things entering into our churches...PAW, UPC, 
Bibleway Worldwide, and any other Apostolic organization, or independent churches.

I don't believe that any one organization is more holy than any other. We are all being attacked 
by the same enemy, and he's using the same tactics all over the world...though there may be 
cultural differences, the results are the same.

I would say it is a major UPC church...1,500 members or more...now whether or not the pastor 
knows what's going on, I don't know. However, I don't necessarily agree with putting a church out 
of an organization because of the wrongs of a few members. I could see it if the pastor decided 
to go a different way in the doctrine altogether, but to be excommunicated because a few members 
are doing their own thing? I think that's a bit far fetched.

I know in the PAW when a member falls into sin, he may be sat-down or disfellowshipped, but the 
church goes on. In one instance that I'm familiar with where the pastor was found guilty of 
infidelity, he was disciplined accordingly by the diocesan bishop, and removed from his position 
for a period of time. When he was able to resume the pastorate, he took it upon himself to leave 
the organization...he was not put out.