How Should We Relate to Trinitarians (LONG Article

"Robert J. Brown" (rj@eli.wariat.org)
Wed, 4 Oct 1995 05:18:44 -0500


>>>>> "Kyle" == R Kyle Jones <rkjones@husc.harvard.edu> writes:

    Kyle> At 05:20 AM 9/27/95 -0500, you wrote:
    >> I am a computer scientist involved in consulting applied to
    >> systems and software R&D, primarily in the areas of real-time,
    >> embedded systems, artificial intelligence, and robotics.  Right
    >> now I am working on a diagnostic expert system for a
    >> complicated peice of industrial automation equipment.
    >> 
    >> -- --"Hear now my reasoning, and harken to the pleadings of my
    >> lips." [Jb 13:6]-- Robert J. Brown (Bob/Rj) rj@eli.wariat.org 1
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    Kyle> Ahhhhh.  That explains your "Modeling the Methods of the
    Kyle> Mind."  Speaking of such, I was just wondering: how are
    Kyle> computers fairing at the Turing Test these days?

If you are familiar with the biography of Alan Turing, you should know
that he was abrilliant, but eccentric person.  He was often considered
rather out in left field.  He was also a very depressed homosexual who
commited suicide to end what he thought was a life without any
significant accomplishments.  

The "Turing Test" was the first test for the achievement of artificial
intelligence, and as such was rather naive in that it was stated too
simply, and was too vague in determining just what was to be
accomplished.  If just any person could be a tester in the turing
test, the Fiegenbaum's boss awarded a passing grade to Fiegenbaum's
"Eliza" program -- the famous computer program that mimiced a Freudian
psychoanalyst.  Of couse, the program's only real accomplishment was a
half-hearted parsing of English sentences, but even real
psychoanalysts were fooled.  There was genuine worry that
psychoanalysts would be replaced by computers.  This was all in the
1960s, and computers haven't done as well on the Turing Test since.
You see, our expectations have risen faster than the technology.

I have not heard of any serious effort to even perform the Turing test
in the past 25 years.

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