How Should We Relate to Trinitarians (LONG Article Included)

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>FV> If one looks at how the early church interacted with
>FV> Judaism, I believe one can find many parallels with how our
>FV> fellowship must interact with trinitarians. We didn't
>FV> discover the Truth, our forefathers simply responded when
>FV> God restored Truth to His Church. And many of us like myself
>FV> continue to respond today when we hear the message.
>
>You are the victim of great deception.  The gates of hell did not prevail
>against the true Church.  Your RCC (note that I said "Your" right there),
>has never been the true Church, nor have her denominations.
>
>Mat 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this
>rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail
>against it. 
>
Steve,

Your zeal is only overshadowed by your ignorance. Any first year Bible student knows that this verse means that hell cannot stand against the onslaught of the Gospel. Gates don't move, nor do they fight, therefore they can't attack. Your grasp of the Scripture is weak enough that it would bring the Oneness message into disrepute if a trinitarian ever heard you. May I suggest some time at a good UPC Bible college.

>Your premise is founded on the assumption that the gates of hell did
>prevail, but then there was a revival.
>
If you look at Israel in the Old Testament there were many instances where she lost her way. However she was still God's chosen and He did NOT forsake her in that covenant, but brought her back to him. Just because God's message is obscured at times, does not mean God is through working.

>We sing it like this now: 
>
>"We're not children of Azuza street 
>we've got more power than they did back then, 
>we're not children of Azuza street cause
>we're oneness and were not trin." 
> (sung to the tune of one of the UPC's
>great "mini-god" Sodomite songwriters tunes).
>
Sorry, I don't recognize the song you must have typed it off-key. I take the Bible as my standard, not some poorly written "hymn" which A. nonymous wrote.

STEVE

You have continued to quote from the trinitarian translated KJV in speaking to this list. If you don't use trinitarian songs, you can't use the KJV.

Steve you are a HYPOCRITE if you use the KJV and Strong's concordence while saying trinitarian materials are beneath the use of a Pentecostal. ANSWER me now on this question or shut your mouth.You did not answer this point of my article because you cannot. You are doubleminded and choose to use what is useful to you.

>You have hit upon one of the greatest foundational causes of the decent
>into whoredom of so much of the UPC, and that is the belief that the 
>gates of hell prevailed against the true Church until Azuza Street.
>
>See my previous comments on the interpretation of that verse

I recommend you read some of Dr. Marvin Arnolds history books and find
>out what really happened.
> 
I will read them, if you will send them to me. If you feel this strongly about it, the cost of the books should be negligible. If you send me private e-mail to this effect I will send you my mailing address.

Well, sorry to get so riled, especially to those who have no interest in this discussion, I just get very upset when I see the word of God used improperly.

In Jesus' Name

Frank Vandenburg