Subliminal messages

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Mark W. Bassett had occasion to say :
:)
:)On Thu, 26 Oct 1995 05:14:07 -0500 (CDT), you wrote:
:)
:)>	It seems to me that this discussion is taking these values from
:)>	the wrong standpoint.  Let me ask you all a question:
:)>
:)>		Do you believe in being seperate and holding up ALL
:)>	    the values of holiness as the bible instructs us to?
:)
:)You are wise to refocus. It seems rational that improper messages
:)might be broadcast by the world. What was remarkable of late, is that
:)Disney was assumed to be lilly white, and invited without question
:)into Christian homes  because it used animated animals. Very strange!

	What I was trying to get out here is that, though they may
	have seemed lilly white compared to the filfth that the world
	is putting out. The shows and movies that Disney has been
	putting together for the past several years show me themes that
	are inconsistent with the values of right and wrong that we
	are or should be teaching our children.  For example, look	
	at the themes of Aladdin, or the underlying characters and their
	garments even in The Little Mermaid.  On the surface they seem
	so cute and harmless, because they were so different from what 
	world has been showing us.  But if you look at what you are 
	telling the children is ok to be brought into your home, and
	viewed that this must be ok things to you and that you approve.
	I'm sure that most all of us here don't approve of the mystical	
	and magic themes in Aladdin, but maybe we didn't see it that way
	at first...  Just some points to ponder, look deeper than the
	surface and maybe you won't be so surprised in the end.

:)
:)>	I do and that is why, when my family began walking for the Lord
:)>	a few years ago, we completely got rid of the TV, VCR, and 
:)>	associated things.  Do you actually think that it is holy to look
:)>	at those videos (though they be Disney) if there weren't any
:)>	subliminal messages in them?  I don't...
:)
:)I've been watching the general conference tapes on a VCR and enjoying
:)every minute of it. Are we going back to labeling machineryt as evil?
:)You know I encounter people unfamilliar with the 'net who, while they
:)will ignore the underwear ads in their morning paper, believe that we
:)are sitting at "pornography machines" because of all the concern about
:)porn on the internet?

	I am in no way saying that all machinery is evil, Lord what
	would God be doing having me finish my degree if it was...

:)
:)Virtually all the produce of Hollywood and related industries is
:)manufacturing *entertainment* suited for the tastes of the carnal man.
:)Should it surprise anyone that these include sexual inuendos? As a
:)youngster in elementary school 35 years ago, it was the rage to come
:)up with that stuff. Ought those of the same age who have grown up to
:)own the industry which weaned them not remember that kids minds react
:)to this? 
:)
:)It is only the scale of activity and amalgemation (as one man recently
:)reminded us), that raises concern. Why should ANYONE, EVER have
:)trusted Disney, the YMCA, or the US public schools to convey a message
:)fitting the mind and heart of a child of God? Tax dollars and
:)expensive tickets to not buy the path to heaven.

	AMEN !!!  I believe the correct cliche is "In GOD We Trust!"

:)
:)And, to answer the implied question, yes, my kids have watched the
:)occasional Disney video over the years. And YES, I believe in holiness
:)standards. We have no broadcast TV, no routine of rental or other
:)means of accessing the worldly stream of filth.
:)
:)Bro. Griffin, I commend you in making the right decision in these
:)matters.
:)
:)However, I have observed something, and HOPE it doesnt make people too
:)uncomfortable to talk about, or issue and invitation for another wave
:)of kamikazee messages:
:)
:)That is, people in areas where large scale revivial is taking place in
:)this country may tend to keep their TVs for a while. While a measure
:)of spiritual  health an individuals capability to respond to
:)preaching, more and more, preachers are asking saints to make their
:)own decisions from the word of God rather than spelling out "Get rid
:)of the TV". Kids show up in church with these stupid haircuts, and we
:)sometimes regret that Sister Shepherd did not yet teach "Necklines
:)101" this year. In other words, open doors mean live people. Either
:)live people are not always the sheep they are supposed to be, or some
:)of us don't know much about sheep.
:)
:)The bottom line is, there are perhaps more than one way to look the
:)meaning of saints not immediately responding to preaching on holiness.
:)my experience is, that in socially progressive areas of the society, a
:)positive response to a positive message of holiness is as meaningful
:)as the Holy Ghost infilling itself, and cause for great excitement. 

	I pretty much agree, with you here.  They don't change as they
	walk through the door, but as the spirit leads them.  That is
	why the Holy Ghost is so important, especially to the youth
	of today.  They face the battlelines everyday, especially if they
	are in the public school system.

	Thank you for all of you wonderful comments, and I hope that
	you feel that we are more in agreement than you may have initially.
	

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