Subliminal messages

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HI>On Thu, 26 Oct 1995 05:14:07 -0500 (CDT), you wrote:

HI>>	It seems to me that this discussion is taking these values from
HI>>	the wrong standpoint.  Let me ask you all a question:
HI>>
HI>>		Do you believe in being seperate and holding up ALL
HI>>	    the values of holiness as the bible instructs us to?

HI>You are wise to refocus. It seems rational that improper messages
HI>might be broadcast by the world. What was remarkable of late, is that
HI>Disney was assumed to be lilly white, and invited without question
HI>into Christian homes  because it used animated animals. Very strange!

HI>>	I do and that is why, when my family began walking for the Lord
HI>>	a few years ago, we completely got rid of the TV, VCR, and 
HI>>	associated things.  Do you actually think that it is holy to look
HI>>	at those videos (though they be Disney) if there weren't any
HI>>	subliminal messages in them?  I don't...

HI>I've been watching the general conference tapes on a VCR and enjoying
HI>every minute of it. Are we going back to labeling machineryt as evil?
HI>You know I encounter people unfamilliar with the 'net who, while they
HI>will ignore the underwear ads in their morning paper, believe that we
HI>are sitting at "pornography machines" because of all the concern about
HI>porn on the internet?

HI>Virtually all the produce of Hollywood and related industries is
HI>manufacturing *entertainment* suited for the tastes of the carnal man.
HI>Should it surprise anyone that these include sexual inuendos? As a
HI>youngster in elementary school 35 years ago, it was the rage to come
HI>up with that stuff. Ought those of the same age who have grown up to
HI>own the industry which weaned them not remember that kids minds react
HI>to this? 

HI>It is only the scale of activity and amalgemation (as one man recently
HI>reminded us), that raises concern. Why should ANYONE, EVER have
HI>trusted Disney, the YMCA, or the US public schools to convey a message
HI>fitting the mind and heart of a child of God? Tax dollars and
HI>expensive tickets to not buy the path to heaven.

HI>And, to answer the implied question, yes, my kids have watched the
HI>occasional Disney video over the years. And YES, I believe in holiness
HI>standards. We have no broadcast TV, no routine of rental or other
HI>means of accessing the worldly stream of filth.

HI>Bro. Griffin, I commend you in making the right decision in these
HI>matters.

HI>However, I have observed something, and HOPE it doesnt make people too
HI>uncomfortable to talk about, or issue and invitation for another wave
HI>of kamikazee messages:

HI>That is, people in areas where large scale revivial is taking place in
HI>this country may tend to keep their TVs for a while. While a measure
HI>of spiritual  health an individuals capability to respond to
HI>preaching, more and more, preachers are asking saints to make their
HI>own decisions from the word of God rather than spelling out "Get rid
HI>of the TV". Kids show up in church with these stupid haircuts, and we
HI>sometimes regret that Sister Shepherd did not yet teach "Necklines
HI>101" this year. In other words, open doors mean live people. Either
HI>live people are not always the sheep they are supposed to be, or some
HI>of us don't know much about sheep.

HI>The bottom line is, there are perhaps more than one way to look the
HI>meaning of saints not immediately responding to preaching on holiness.
HI>my experience is, that in socially progressive areas of the society, a
HI>positive response to a positive message of holiness is as meaningful
HI>as the Holy Ghost infilling itself, and cause for great excitement. 

HI>I greatly appreciate men who will preach with fire and resolution
HI>regarding absolutes of church standards, but am also interested in
HI>seeing a higher yeild, and lower "hypocrite fallout" (i.e.
HI>self-condemned who pretend to follow standards in public ... two
HI>wardrobes ...etc). Loosing people and separating tares is not one of
HI>our goals.

HI>Holiness must envelop the believer in and out, being the character of
HI>the spirit and name which joins him to the Living God. 


HI>-- http://www.pcnet.com/~mbasset/life.htm
HI>The Whole Gospel to the Whole World    -   Life Tabernacle UPC
HI>"Preaching the Kingdom of God, and teaching those things which concern the L
HI>with all confidence, no man forbidding ... " - Acts 28:31

VERY Good choice of words there Bro. Basset!

Michael
miyael@pnx.com