Returned mail: Host unknown (Name server: prarienet.org: host not found)

Mail Delivery Subsystem (MAILER-DAEMON@eli.wariat.org)
Mon, 30 Oct 1995 10:59:07 -0600


This is a MIME-encapsulated message

--KAA01378.815072347/eli.wariat.org

The original message was received at Mon, 30 Oct 1995 10:58:20 -0600
>from rj@localhost

   ----- The following addresses had delivery problems -----
higher-fire@prarienet.org  (unrecoverable error)

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
550 higher-fire@prarienet.org... Host unknown (Name server: prarienet.org: host not found)

   ----- Original message follows -----

--KAA01378.815072347/eli.wariat.org
Content-Type: message/rfc822

Return-Path: rj
Received: (from rj@localhost) by eli.wariat.org (8.6.12/8.6.9) id KAA01377; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 10:58:20 -0600
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 10:58:20 -0600
From: "Robert J. Brown" <rj>
Message-Id: <199510301658.KAA01377@eli.wariat.org>
To: richardm@cd.com
CC: higher-fire@prarienet.org, nick@dazed.nol.net, jerry@eli.wariat.org
In-reply-to: <9510301615.AA01723@bif.cd.com> (richardm@cd.com)
Subject: Re: oops, wrong address!

>>>>> "Richard" == Richard Masoner <richardm@cd.com> writes:

    Richard> A message I cc'ed you on...  ----- Unsent message follows
    Richard> ----- From: richardm@bif (Richard Masoner) Message-Id:
    Richard> <9510301529.AA29944@bif.cd.com> Subject: Re: IRC (fwd)
    Richard> To: nick@dazed.nol.net (Nick Anderson) Date: Mon, 30 Oct
    Richard> 1995 09:29:26 -0600 (CST) Cc: rjbrown@eli.wariat.org
    Richard> In-Reply-To:
    Richard> <Pine.SOL.3.91.951028033514.26740A-100000@dazed> from
    Richard> "Nick Anderson" at Oct 28, 95 03:41:41 am X-Mailer: ELM
    Richard> [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type:
    Richard> text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding:
    Richard> 7bit

    >> Thanks for responding so quickly. How much will this cost?

    Richard> FREE FREE FREE :-) for all UPC churches at
    Richard> http://eli.wariat.org.

    >> I guess HTML must be pretty easy to learn, but I have no
    >> knowledge of it so I will need your help.

    Richard> Yep, it's easy.  It's 100% ASCII.

    Richard> What we can do is this: I can draw up the initial HTML
    Richard> pages for you, then you can modify as necessary.

    >> I thought 4 pics. one in each corner. Like, one of worship, one
    >> of Pastor preaching, one of outside of church and one of Pastor
    >> and his wife.  Would that be too much?  then in the middle,
    >> info on the church. Service times, address, etc.

    Richard> Sounds really good.  Just send me all the text you want
    Richard> and I'll make a page out of that and put them on a server
    Richard> where you can take a look.  With your approval, we can
    Richard> then make the page "public."

    >> If we can do a sound file that would be good. I know it takes
    >> up a lot of space, i think I have something like 5 meg on my
    >> account through my

    Richard> As long the the sound bites are kept short, it should be
    Richard> okay.  Br.  Brown can let you know more about this.

    Richard> I've Cc'ed this to the owner of eli.wariat.org.

    Richard> Richard

I added more disk a couple of weeks ago, dur to the death of an old
and wheezing HP 340 MB drive.  It was replaced by a Seagate 1 GB
drive, giving us over 500 MB extra, so space is not a big problem yet.

I do suggest limiting things that depend on sound, and color, and even
somewhat on pictures, as different browsers have different levels of
support for such things.  For instance, I have a monochrome display
(not greyscale -- pixels are either black or white) and no sound
capability.  The most informative thing to put on a page is text, in
HTML format.  Pictures are OK, but remember that not all browsers give
you control over placement.  HTML is not a page layout language like
Postscript.  It is a hypertest mark-up language.

Some people in certain situations may only have a VT-100 like ascii
text terminal, where inverse video is about as fancy as the special
effects get.  The Lynx browser works great on these terminals, but not
if the page is designed from the expectation that everyone runs the
latest version of Netscape.

We need to remember that Netscape is a commercial product that
requires a license, and can not be freely given away.  Lynx and Mosiac
suffer no such encumberments!  How many Netscape users have registered
their copy and sent in the $49.00 (or $39.00, or whatever the amount
is)?  

If you are not a student (full-time?) or a charitable or academeic
organization, and your Netscape is over 90 days old, then you are in
violation of the license -- you are illegal -- you are stealing!
"Thou shalt not steal."  

I encourage the use of free browsers, and other free software.  That's
why I run Linux and Gnu software from the Free Software Foundation
wherever possible.  I have found the quality to be excellent.

-- 
--"Hear now my reasoning, and harken to the pleadings of my lips." [Jb 13:6]--
Robert Jay Brown III  rj@eli.wariat.org  http://eli.wariat.org  1 708 705-0370
Elijah Laboratories Inc;  759 Independence Drive;  Suite 5;  Palatine IL 60074
-----  M o d e l i n g   t h e   M e t h o d s   o f   t h e   M i n d  ------

--KAA01378.815072347/eli.wariat.org--