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On Thu, 17 Oct 1996 08:59:48 +0200, you wrote:

>Bro. Bassett,
> Can you answer me one more question? You mentioned that they
>think that we are not saved. Do you know why they think that?=20

Well, ... we did not hear the gospel from their Apostle, and he or his
ministers did not baptize us. I hope Im not left regretting ever
responding to this.

>"Of course, I think their evangelism is pretty mych dead, though I may
>be wrong, and so far as I know, if we arent saved (in their model),
>there are virtually no white people saved.  :) <--- you have to
>remember these little smileys... they are real important sometimes."
>
>The way you wrote it, it sounds like they are racist (all my, and I =
might
>stick my foot in my mouth now, "black" brothers and sisters please =
forgive
>me for asking that, but I'm a dumb German) and if you are white you are
>automatically damned....but the bible tells me God is not a respector of
>persons and we obey the Apostolic message as well as they do???

Ok, 2 things...=20

1. We didnt hear the gospel from their Apostle, and probably some of
us do some things or have some liberties that they might not tolerate.

2. They have almost no outreach to whites.

Add up one and two ... and you get to the same conclusion I reached.

>.. asI have contact with more and more Apostolic groups besides UPC=20

Its interesting isnt it ? I have known of many, many diverse groups
for a long time, and withthis in mind am always amused at the
desperate and righteous sounding cries for "unity of apostolics" that
we hear.. I think if anyone suddenly knew the whole picture they would
fall into a chair and perhaps not speak again for another month. :)

I think the key here is, "I am not responsible for what they do, and
do not know and cannot account for their backgrounds". This takes a
load of judgement off...

There are reasons why there are separate administrations, and within
every local group that God is burning the true oil of the Holy Ghost,
there are problems :)

-mwb