CONCHR Re: Christ's fulfillment of the law (fwd)

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Murph wrote:

> If aborted babies (a distusting thought) go to heaven (a pleasant 
> thought), the argument 
> remains, the devil has evangelized more souls than all the churches 
> in the world that ever existed combined.

"Kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out."

I was listening to some "Bible Answerman" program on the Moody network
back before I was a Christian, and one of the callers made that same
observation -- "Hey, we're saving them from a life of troubles and
sending them straight to heaven!"

There's a weird buddhist ritual where you can actually get good karma
points by doing something like this: while abortion is evil, you are
saving the little kiddos from suffering and thus you get good karma
yourself.  A real life example of this: in Southeast Asia there are
guys who catch wild birds and put them in cages.   A good buddhist
comes along, sees the poor little wild bird in the cage, offers to buy
the bird and purchases it to set it free.  Thus the good buddhist gets
some good karma points for setting the animal free, and the "bad guy"
also gets good karma points for giving the good buddhist a chance to
practice his benevolence to other living beings.

You take this to a logical end and you discover there is no bad karma,
since all evil gives good people a chance to respond to that evil.
Hitler himself probably has become an avatar because he gave thousands
of people the opportunity to perform heroic deeds.  The abortion doctor
is collecting karma points by setting babies free from suffering, and
probably getting a few bonus points by allowing people of conscience an
opportunity to express their indignation of his practice.

It's a massively recursive "What goes around comes around."  Perpetual
spiritual karma, dude.  Let's assume the lotus position, chant some
mantras and meditate on the nothingness of this concept. *Ohhmmmmmmmm.*

That is the Zen goal, y'know -- nothingness.  You think nothing, you
become empty-headed.  Suffering comes from desires, and these desires
must be flushed from you to end suffering.  Your body, mind, and spirit
can be trained to desire *nothing*.  It's the ultimate nihilism.  And
with the circular karma, that's about what buddhism is based on:
nothing.  The buddhist will experience the totality of nothingness
after his death -- but the nothingness will be so complete that it will
not *end* suffering, but it will be ultimate suffering.  Nothingness is
complete seperation from God; nothingness is destruction; and
nothingness is wailing and gnashing of teeth in outer darkness.  An
infinite NULL pointer dereference with no hope of a PANIC dump to get
you out of your mess  "HELP ME GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

It will be too late for millions, billions of souls.  God, that hurts,
neh?  Zen is growing around the world.  People here in the U.S. reject
the authority of Scripture, but then accept without question the
philosophy of people like Paul Pirsig (author of _Zen and the Art of
Motorcycle Maintenance_).  I suppose they base their acceptance of
authority based on how catchy the title of the tome is.  Never mind
that Zen master Mr. Pirsig ended up attempting suicide and landed in
the mental ward on his spiritual journey to nothingness.  Zen is a
religion focused on death.

Pray for my brother Tim.  He practices Zen, though he's also currently
open to Christianity.

> But Kantian, or absolute ethics, tell us not to support abortion 
> regardless of the benefits or consequences of doing so, which are 
> totally irrelevant. 
> 
> Kant says, never lie, even if it means Nazi's finding your family. if 
> the Nazi says, "Is you wife in the house" and you KNOW he won't even 
> look, you must not lie. If you do, you break an absolute law. 
> 
> Mill (utilitarian) would say, "Lie, because it will bring about 
> greater good". The consequences of the action are what count, not the 
> action itself. For Kant, the exact opposite is true. 
> 
> So, the church today follows the Kantian or absolute moral code, the 
> divine, while society tends to follow the utilitarian model, often 
> abusing it to justify selfish motives. 

Richard Maoner