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> Subject: our movement
> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 07:05:00 -0500
> From: "Russell G. Robertson" <russellr@pmihwy.com>
> To: higher-fire.@prairient.org
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> I know this is kinda long but I think you should read this I have never
> heared any one say things about our movement like this before I want to
> send him a leeter but dont know were to start
> Bro. Russ Robertson
> 
> Folly: Lunacy in Jesus' Name
> 
> I know a number of saved people who are charismatic and that is why I've
> held off on writing this
> article. I needed to know some more facts. On 4-27-97, the Washington
> Post had a huge picture of
> a mass of people with upraised hands plastered on the front of the Style
> section with the title, "What
> in God's Name...?" The subtitle read,
> 
>      June 1995. Pensacola, Florida. A one-day church service turns into
> the longest,
>      loudest religious revival in nearly a century. It's still going
> strong. There's weeping and
>      wailing and bodies are thudding to the floor. Is this love, LUNACY,
> or the beginning of
>      the end of the world?
> 
> The article started by describing that fateful Father's Day in 1995 when
> the "Revival" started--a
> gushing wind, the pastor couldn't walk, the pastor fell to the floor,
> etc. The paper then added a
> disturbing comment--"like a story straight out of the Bible". They are
> attributing weirdness to the
> word of God. Maybe at some point, I'll add at least part of the article
> to this page. Anyway, after
> reading the article, I stored the newspaper article away sorrowful.
> Lunacy associated with Jesus
> Christ. Another blow. Whew.
> 
> Then a few weeks ago, I received a book about charismatic leaders. I
> also received several e-mails
> from charismatics. Then today I got two e-mails about the charismatic
> movement--from different
> people. I felt compelled to write this article tonight because it seems
> that the Lord has let me see
> folly so many times that I've got to bust out of silence. This is one of
> the worst times I've had writing
> an article because I know people who are saved and charismatic.
> 
> I even went to church with a charismatic friend once (I believe she's
> been to Pensacola. She was the
> first person to tell me about it). She and I had talked about the things
> of Christ at work but I didn't
> know what kind of church she attended. When we got to her church we got
> a show. Beautiful music
> filled with Bible verses floated through the auditorium, but then the
> song leader kept telling people to
> worship, worship, hand praise, hand praise. His commands seemed rather
> contrived as if to play on
> and heighten people's emotions.
> 
> As we sat in the service, a woman in the audience yelled out and I
> almost jumped out of my skin--I
> thought a maniac had broken into the service (I know, I'm ridiculous).
> She started screaming, "Your
> cup is not full, your cup is not full, I want to fill it..." like she
> was speaking the oracles of God. What
> happened to women keeping silent in the churches? Now that I've had some
> time to speak to some
> folks, and read up on it, I understand that this is called prophesying.
> I call it extra-biblical revelation.
> As a Bible-believer, I know that everything that pertaineth to life and
> godliness is found between the
> covers of my authorized King James Bible. The cherry on top of the day
> was the guest preacher was
> a woman! At the end of the service, a man told people to come up front
> while some soothing music
> played behind his voice. People were just standing around moaning while
> he talked. This lasted quite
> a long time.
> 
> Another thing I noticed at the church was a man saying that everybody
> that gets saved must speak in
> "their own spiritual language" (this refers to speaking in tongues). A
> lot of charismatics have written
> me telling me that I ain't telling the full gospel if I don't include
> Acts 2:38. Even though this verse
> doesn't say anything about speaking in tongues, I know that this is what
> they are driving at. In my
> e-mail archives somewhere I have several responses to this issue but I
> don't have the time to dig
> them out, rather I will say that speaking in tongues is not a sign that
> you've been baptized or filled
> with the Holy Ghost. Many charismatics are bound up and tightly chained
> by their desire to see signs
> and wonders. In the Bible, these signs were not for the elect but for
> the unbeliever, yet in charismatic
> churches every Sunday, people want to see a show. Back to tongues...
> 
> Some people will say, "Tongues is over with. Nobody can do that
> anymore." I won't go that far
> because the scriptures won't let me. I will say however, that
> charismatics oftentimes disregard the
> biblical standards for exercising this spiritual gift. Paul said if it
> is done in church, (1) someone must
> interpret the tongue and (2) a maximum of 2 to 3 people can speak in
> tongues at one service. In
> many charismatic services, everybody and their grandma is speaking in
> tongues, slaying in the spirit
> (not biblical), and laying hands on people they don't know. A lot of the
> "speaking in tongues" that is
> done is not really tongues at all. It is unintelligible babble. Let me
> continue to digress with another
> little story...
> 
> When I was young adult (about 21) I went to a church with a friend and
> the lady preacher had me
> on tv trying to make me speak in tongues. I felt embarrassed and almost
> wished I could (I think a lot
> of people get pressured into it). She practically put the microphone
> down my throat while she said
> something like, "Hubba da dubba--do it. Hubba da dubba dubba." I felt
> that it was too ridiculous to
> do. I wanted to laugh but at the same time I was nervous with the lights
> glaring in my face in the front
> of a church full of people. After a few moments of me standing there
> looking crazy she pushed me
> over to a man who started talking to me. I guess I was slowing up the
> program.
> 
> Should Christians be barking like dogs and oinking like pigs? Should a
> woman be laughing so hard
> she's rolling around on the floor with her skirt above her head? Should
> a man be so "drunk" in
> church that he's laying on the lap of a woman who is not his wife? Is
> the term "Holy Ghost glue" in
> the Bible? How about "Holy Ghost bartender"? Should we listen to a
> preacher who makes a
> prophecy and it comes out wrong? Read Deuteronomy 18:22 for the answer.
> Should kids have to
> be sent home from school because they can't stop "jerking"? God is not
> the author of confusion and
> these things are certainly confusion.
> 
> I can't stop people from sending their nasty comments to me about this
> issue, but there is no need to
> write defending this devilish stuff. I've seen so much that I'm filled
> up to the gills. I've held off and
> held off, but the actions are not lining up with the good book.
> 
> People have written burned out with the speaking in tongues and antics
> that they were expected to
> perform week after week. Forget about a man-made "Holy Ghost party" as
> it is termed by some
> charismatic leaders. The night is far spent and the works of darkness
> are working at full force. We
> ain't got no time to be drunk--twitchin and a shakin' drivin' off the
> road and such nonsense. The
> Bible says that we've got to be SOBER!
> 
> I'm afraid that at many of the "Holy Ghost parties" in Pensacola and
> worldwide devils are having a
> field day while the work of God is left undone. A non-believer can go to
> Pensacola and come out
> not knowing any more about eternal salvation than when they went. One
> gentleman who's gone
> several times described he and his family's last trip. It seemed they
> had a good time, but his entire
> description focused on the jerking business. Near the end he added "and
> Steve Hill gave a short
> message". Nothing about the message. I don't recall the name "Jesus"
> being mentioned one time.
> 
> Our faith is a mind faith. At its core is Jesus Christ, not our
> emotions. Yes, I get emotional meditating
> on the goodness of God and hearing His word, but for many charismatics
> that emotion comes from
> jumping up and down on Sunday to some heart throbbing music. Is this
> what disciples are supposed
> to do? What doth the Bible say? What was Jesus doing while here?
> Preaching and teaching the
> kingdom of God, and doing good works. What was Paul doing? Preaching and
> teaching and
> encouraging from prison. What was Timothy, Silas, Barnabas doing? Going
> on missionary trips
> preaching the gospel to a lost world. What about many charismatic
> preachers? Falling down in the
> pulpit, laughing their heads off, slaying in the spirit (knocking people
> out with a touch), prophesying
> about church buildings, and speaking in tongues while nobody knows what
> they are saying.
> 
> If you are interested in documented cases of charismatic leaders lying
> and thieving, one book to
> check out is "Counterfeit Revival" by Hank Hanegraff. Also go to David
> Cloud's page for sundry
> articles on this movement.
> 
> A sad quote and I'll leave this subject alone. This passage is taken
> from "Counterfeit Revival" by
> Hank Hanegraff on page 87:
> 
>      "One night I was preaching on hell," boasts Counterfeit Revival
> leader Rodney
>      Howard-Browne, when suddenly laughter "just hit the whole place.
> The more I told
>      people what hell was like, the more they laughed."
> 
> I'm sorry but hell is no laughing matter. If anything it should drive
> men to repentance and those of us
> who are saved should be thinking "Thank you Jesus I'm not going there."
> We certainly shouldn't be
> laughing because it is a real place and people we know are going there.
> The Spirit of Christ would
> not make us laugh.
> 
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