Tree/forest Question...(was Re: Can God...)

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Robert J. Brown wrote:
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> >>>>> "Bill" == Bill Clifton <woodrow_@geocities.com> writes:
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>     Bill> One needs to clarify what sound is, as opposed to
>     Bill> energy. The tree falls and energy is translated into
>     Bill> compression waves in the ground and air.  Depending on the
>     Bill> amount of energy imparted into the medium and the rate of
>     Bill> disapation the waves will travel a given distance. If there
>     Bill> is nothing there to translate this energy back to an audible
>     Bill> input then "sound" was not produced. The energy was
>     Bill> produced, the potnetial was there, but sound is not the
>     Bill> energy wave in air but the responce of an organism to this
>     Bill> energy. So the answer is no sound was produced only energy.
> 
> Wrong again, Batman!
> 
> If sound is "the responce of an organism", then me holding my ears is
> "sound", not the heavy metal rock music coming out of the car next to
> me.  Somehow, this does not seem quite right to me...
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Talk about beating a dead horse, sound is defined as the response in an
organism to the compression waves. The "response" is the conversion of
physical energy (sound wave) into a form our brain can use (electric
pulses). Sound is the name for the brains reaction to response of the
nerves of the ear to the compression wave. Do we need to get into
anatomy here too.....

Energy is created when the tree falls....if that energy gets converted
by an organism then there is sound. Sound is what we hear. You can also
feel the compression waves - but if you may not "hear" them if they are
at a frequecy that your ear can not detect. The energy is there but no
sound accompanies it cause we cant detect it.

I wonder if this should be taken off list.

Bill Clifton,
woodrow_@geocities.com
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/1226/index.html