Can God do all things???
George Rimel (grimel@ibm.net)
Mon, 27 Oct 1997 20:32:32 -0500
Harrell01@aol.com wrote:
>
> > The Ananias and Saphirra account in Acts shows Peter did all the
> > speaking, with Ananias' and Saphirra's deaths coming as he spoke.
> > Now God may have said "Come" to their souls, but bang wouldn't
> > have been a likely choice.
>
> THIS was a joke...get it?!
Yes
> As far as your exegesis on the "big bang theory of creation" I cannot
> buy into it. There is nothing in scripture that even closely resembles
> a big bang,
Please re-read the thread, at no time have I said anything about the big
bang theory of creation. I HAVE answered the unanswerable question -
WHAT/WHO cause the big bang - GOD, in the begining GOD said BANG(or how
ever he chose). That is the only way the big bang theory is accurate.
> so I'd think we'd be much safer at leaving unanswered
> questions just that, instead of applying logic and reason and maybe
> ultimately creating a doctrine among our individual following.
Not applying logic and reason to the Bible and science is why we have
these problems today.
1) The Bible isn't a scientific text, yet where the Bible makes claims
in the realm of science there can be no conflict. The Bible should
agree with science.
2) The religious community has in the past made statements concerning
the Bible and science that were completely wrong.
i.e. in the 1600's Galileo was forced to recant that the earth revolved
around the sun. Now, everyone believes the earth goes 'round the sun.
STRIKE ONE against religion.
i.e. science ridiculed the story of the earth stopping rotation for the
Israelits, yet after back calculations some inconsistancies were found
in the model that could only be expained by the earth's rotation being
stopped. STRIKE ONE against science.
3) When the Bible and science disagree, either the Bible is
misinterpreted or the science is faulty.
4) The Bible is for how to live, science is how things work.
> "Without form and void" does not necessarily mean that there was a ball
> that exploded and traveled perpetually outward. I'm not saying that this
> IS NOT the case, I'm just saying that according to the Bible, we have no
> conclusive evidence even alluding to this fact.
the Bible isn't an exact record of EVERYTHING that has or will happen,
just a record of what God thinks is important for man to get perfect -
salvation, how to live, major history to prove he is God.
> Scientist will have us to believe that's what happened, and from a natural
> standpoint, it sounds good and is logical. But I would not even venture to
> tie that in with Bible creation.
Well, since the Bible uses terms for time in vague ways who is to say
the exact length of a creation day? Besides, for all the grief I've
given the Big Bang theory, it is a fairly accurate description of
Genisis 1's sequence.
In summary:
IMO, it is time for Christianity to stop fighting in a realm in which it
has limited knowledge. Theologins are not nearly as expert in theology
as scientists are in science. This has resulted in science looking at
religion as illogical, holding to myths that have been proven false.
This opinion is still held today, because our people remain, by and
large, ignorant of what science really says.
Skip
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In the begining God said BANG! and it was BIG