Nestorianism
"Matthew Shaw" (mshaw@teleplex.bsu.edu)
Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:08:10 -0500
>Brother Shaw-
>Isn't that the same as saying there are two god's?
[Matthew]:
Not really. Nestorians believed that they were maintaining the singularity
of the Godhead. They believed only the Spirit was God, and they believed
that Jesus Christ was a willing servant of that Spirit. Make sense? I know
it's a little strange=)
[Sis. Rachel]:
Because God is a
>Spirit and therefore cannot be a "person". I think that gets into the
>whole arguement about who was Jesus praying to in the garden and all of
>that. I really believe that as much as we have a revelation of who Jesus
>is there are still aspects of the Godhead that we cannot and will not
>understand because if we understood everything now, we could say that we
>have arrived! And God would be on our human level and no longer be GOD!
[Matthew]:
Sis. Rachel, again, not to be contentious, but I think we can *understand*
the Godhead. Of course, we will never apprehend all that is God or
understand His infinite ways, but I believe that we can, from the Scripture,
make solid-rock conclusions about His identity and Incarnation. The mystery
of the Godhead is not the revelation but the fact that He came in the flesh
(I Tm. 3.16).
Concerning Gethsemane, the Oneness perspective is that Jesus prayed as a
real man, suffered as a real man and was supplicating to the deity that was
the Father. We can make no other explanation. We understand the dual
nature of Christ as God and man. We also appropriate certain actions and
words of Christ to each respective nature.
Naturally, when praying, He must pray as a man, because God, by definition,
cannot pray. The fact that Christ struggles with the ordeal that was before
Him evidences that He had a human will that was in conflict with the
spiritual will resident in Himself.
May God bless you with all blessings.
Bro. Matthew