Nestorianism

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From: Matthew Shaw <mshaw@teleplex.bsu.edu>
To: higher-fire@prairienet.org <higher-fire@prairienet.org>
Date: Thursday, October 15, 1998 6:48 AM
Subject: Re: Nestorianism


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>[Matthew]:
>I think this statement is a little misdirected.  The Sonship of Christ is
>dependent upon His Incarnation.  If we believe that as the Son, He was
>totally spiritual, then we have a good argument for the pre-existent Son,
>which is basely trinitarian.
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>The union of those natures is a necessity in orthodox Christology.  If we
>divide them into incongruent realities and deny that He was at once both
God
>and man, then I fear that we reject the message of the mighty God in
Christ.
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>Blessings.
>
>Matthew
>

  Praise the Lord:

   According to Jesus himself ,he was before abraham and thus in true
reality the sonship did begin in the foundations of the world.He was there
as the word.God thought and it happens.As you call it a trinity thought
.well there are Only Two natures in the world that is GOD and Satan.GOD
created MAN not a Nature of its own .If humanity was on there own then they
wouldnt need GOD or Satan and they would determine our destiny of Heaven or
Hell.
   As far as the statments are mis guided of course its not the direction of
what you believe.Which dont make it your belief.As you have stated that You
prefer to believe that Jesus could sin and isnt perfect.Then you dont
believe Jesus to be GOD.GOD is perfect and cannot sin.Humanity in Salvation
status of being born again surely isnt the HUSBAND as you would have them to
believe.Jesus is the MAN,Husband not bride.
Jesus wasnt flesh because of his flesh,he was Flesh due too the FULLNESS of
the GODHEAD bodily spiritual ,holy GHost.He knew all things as the Word and
Fullness of GOD incarnate.Jesus is GOD ,the bible says for us to believe
this truth.I believe this as it says in John 8:24 .Says he is GOD.when you
say that Jesus is GOD then you already state that he is GOD,man ,Son Holy
ghost Father.To add to that makes you adding to scripture in every  since of
the definition by Holy writ.

God bless Kenneth Wilson. Show me scripture that states that we are to
believe that Jesus was fully MAN and FULLY God.It says for us to believe
that Jesus was GOD.I do believe that GOD was manifested in flesh but his
flesh is that from Heaven not from EARTH.both Geneologies points this
out.Adam came from GOD,by birth from Mary GOD came from Heaven to take upon
his flesh by the Holy Ghost.