Nestorianism
"apostolic" (modalism@email.msn.com)
Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:48:44 -0700
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From: FITZGEREL@aol.com <FITZGEREL@aol.com>
To: higher-fire@prairienet.org <higher-fire@prairienet.org>
Date: Friday, October 16, 1998 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: Nestorianism
>In a message dated 10/16/98 5:00:01 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
>modalism@email.msn.com writes:
>
><< Jesus couldn't sin for he is GOD if you truly believe that he is. Also
> when the scribes came to accuse Jesus ,he said very firmly that the FATHER
> doeth the works.So if Jesus claime that the Father did the works and GOD
> SENT his Son,meaning that His whole life was spent allowing the Father to
> control and do everything that was done through his Flesh sonship and so
how
> can GOD allow HIS works to be Evil or bad or even sin.The bible says what
> GOD creates is GOOD.Sorry GOD as Father doeth NO SIN or doesnt LEAD his
> FLESH into Sin.sorry HE feels with the spirit of that is within him and
that
> he is the WORD incarnate.You would believe that the KJB bible is Infalible
> and yet the LIVING WORD,Jesus is wow what a thought that some apostolics
> have in regards to that ,they hold paper and ink above that of the Non
> falacy of the Living word.Jesus didnt have to sin for feel that he could
to
> feel what we go through ,GOD did that when Satan did that in Heaven and
when
> GOD was in the desert.God as his power and word knows what we go
through.Try
> again.
>
> Kenneth Wilson.NY
> >>
>
>What you say is true, BUT He didn't have to deal with it as a man, but He
>dealt with sin as only God does. It was his desire and I believe the Bible
>bears this out, that in order to be our high priest and be ever before the
>throne of God interceding for us, He had to feel the affects of temptation
as
>we feel it. Because God couldn't feel temptation at all, only after He
robed
>himself in flesh. Then, He was able to plead our cause before the throne of
>righteousness and show mercy to us.
>In the old testament we have Moses interceding for the children of Israel,
to
>keep God from destroying them because of their weakness and sin. But now
>Jesus is doing the interceding before God, and He abides forever. That is
a
>great part of the Gospel message, because in the work of Calvary and the
shed
>blood of our lamb, sin has lost its dominion over us and we have a High
Priest
>now who is ever keeping our slate clean and imputing His own righteousness
to
>those that have repented, and been baptized in the wonderful name of Jesus,
>and has that same Spirit in them that raised Him from the dead, and is
still
>walking in this wonderful truth.
>
>Pastor Fitzgerel
>
Praise the Lord:
Dual Nature ,Here ole Isreal our lord is One Lord.that also states the GOD
is ONE ,In spirit body ,father holy ghost nature.He did have a body but his
body was from HEAVEN and born by the Holy Spirit ,which fullfills first John
3:9 who so ever is born by the seed and remaineth does not commint sin.Jesus
by Matthew he was born by the Holy Spirit,GOD the seed of truth.GOD never
departed his body untill death which is what the forsakeing is from the
cross.I believe that he was manifested in flesh and had a body but he
contended flesh by HIS creation of the same Humanity.His body wasnt
concieved by sin ,his body was born by GOD in Incarnate and that is God
within him as him and so HIS flesh was the mind of christ,the mind of GOD
can deal with sin which came from without instead of within,GOD and Satan
cant inhabit the same abode.So either it was GOD in christ or Satan
but,bible says GOD in christ.Fully lead by the inward spiritual man,GOD.The
bible says out of the abundance of the heart does the mouth speak,which 1tim
3:16 so explicitly states that the mouth of Jesus is out GOD spoke for that
heart was truely GOD himself and no other.Bible says that Jesus was GODs son
so this already states that HE solely submitting himself without reservation
to withdraw from sonship to be anything other than that,SONSHIP so GOD
sent,meaning that everything he did was that in order of the WORD spirit of
GOD ,sinless and no fault and that his FLESH contended faith for he is
FAITH.without faith its impossible to please GOD,So Jesus pleased all the
days of his life and couldnt sin and temptation couldnt change that whats so
ever.God first loved us,dont you think GOD first loved Satan as his second
in command so to speak and this is where it all started the feeling of our
sin,that in his mind that GOD set out to create mankind.in this did it come
about that Satan tempted GOD and then got his creation to sin ,Man wasnt
concieved by the HOLY GHOST ,holy spirit but by GOD speaking for only JESUS
is the only begotten son of GOD.Sorry but dual stuff is a way for man to
explain the body of GOD in his person.I disagree with it whole heartedly.My
belief may be considered None oneness as you all are concern but to believe
that GOD can sin in his spirit or body is surely against the bible.As Philip
said the person of Jesus is GOD as father thuse his flesh cannot sin for the
FULLNESS of the GODHEAD is JESUS ALL power and ALL Glory and nothing below
that status.which sin is below for everything else is his footstool.God
bless
Kenneth Wilson NY