Feminine Mystique and Apostolic Sisters

"Matthew Shaw" (mshaw@teleplex.bsu.edu)
Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:01:31 -0500



[Sis Yohnk]:
>  Maybe some of us women don't think like you think we do.  I am very
>"old fashioned".  I believe women should stay home with the children.  I
>think there should be definite and distinct male/female roles. I have
>questioned what the role of women getting the vote has done to our
>society. I am very anti-fanatical feminism.  For women to be truly
>fulfilled in life, we need to be truly feminine.  It does women and
>everyone else a disservice for women to act like men. I agree that
>feminism has crept into the church.

[Matthew]:
Please don't think I mean every woman.  I have encountered a good many
Pentecostal women who are upholding feminine traditions.  I know some women
must work, and there are extenuating circumstances, but I do think the ideal
is for the woman to be a keeper of the home.

[Sis. Yohnk]:
>It is hard to tell what your stand is from your post.

[Matthew]:
That's because, all said, I am a hopeless rambler!  Sorry, I should probably
have given more thought to my presentation before just throwing a post out
for public consumption=)

[Sis. Yohnk]:
 I am wondering:
>What do you think "feminism" is?

[Matthew]:
Of course, I'm thinking of the militant feminism that breaks down gender
relationships.  I am opposed to the brand of feminism that seems to assert
that women are everything men are so they can do anything a man can.  I
don't deny that women *could*, but I rather wonder whether they *should.*

[Sis. Yohnk]:
 How do you think it has affected
>society?

[Matthew]:
Well, obviously, in society, it has taken the mother out of the home and
placed mother's who desire to stay at home in the 'prude' category.  I think
feminism has caused women of the world to assume male dress, mannerisms and
even vices.  I think it has made women less pensive and more promiscuous.

[Sis. Yohnk]:
 How do you think it has affected the church?

[Matthew]:
I think it has made some women rebellious and unsubmissive.  I believe that
women are misunderstanding their role in the family and in the Church and
have, in many cases, found it difficult to bring themselves under the
leadership of their husbands and pastors.

[Sis. Yohnk]:
  Do you think
>women who refuse to be berated are "feminists" and "unsubmissive"?

[Matthew]:
Absolutely not!  Women are, in all cases, our equals, our helpmates, our
companions.  I'm not asking women to act as 2d-rate citizens.

[Sis. Yohnk]:
 What
>do you think caused the rise of feminism?

[Matthew]:
I'm sure there are several factors.  Probably, the Second Great War did the
most to flip roles.  Women were, of necessity, pressed into traditionally
male positions.  Of course, it took about a generation to formulate a plan
of action for elevating women in those newly-assumed roles.  The champions
of feminism, somehow, left the original vision, I think, and replaced it
with a militant assertion that women are capable of anything.  Again, I
don't doubt the capability, but capability isn't always acceptability.

Hope that helps a bit.

Blessings.

All Honour to Christ Jesus.

Matthew

Just a few questions to try to
>understand your line of thinking.
>
>Lynne Yohnk
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