Nestorianism

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On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:57:53 -0700 "apostolic" <modalism@email.msn.com>  

>Dual nature which is Elohim started in the Beginning with Adam and Eve. 

Many people tend to misinterpret "Elohim" for some odd reason.  Usually
it is the word that unstudied trinitarians will go to in the OT to defend
a trinity.  

The word "elohim, while being found in the plural state, has a 
singular conotation.  As Robert Graves points out in his book,
"The God of two testaments,"  there are other words in the Hebrew
language which are in plural form, *YET* are singular words.
Examples: the hebrew terms for water, life, face, heaven are ALL
found in the plurality.  

As Dr William Smith points out, it is the "plural of majesty."
Jewish scholars also point out that Elohim denotes plentitude
of might.  henrew scholars refer to God as 'El' and 'Elohim' more
than 2,000 times in the OT.  Every time, they were thinking of Him
as the 'Mighty God.'  and not as a dual nature as you tried to point out.

I really wonder about those who choose to put Jesus into a "Robot"
or "Zombie" type mode when He walked this earth.  The scripture is
very plain on this.  Jesus was God manifest(made known) in the flesh.
Scripture states for in Him dwelt the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Note, it said 'in him' not 'as him.'  Scripture also notes that He was
the
perfect sacrafice.  The Spirit did not die, so what was sacraficed on
the cross?  Scripture says that  there is one God, and one mediator,
the MAN Christ Jesus.  This MAN who prayed in the Garden and stated
"not my will but thine will be done!"  is the same who was tempted, who
wept, who hungered, who learned, bled, and who died.  Jesus had
to his own will.  He chose, as scripture also notes, to be obediant to
the will of the father.  In order for one to choose obediance, one must
have 
a free will, a free will, which humans possess.  Also, for one to 
learn as a servant to be obediant, they had to know what disobediance
was too.  

The biggest problem with those who choose to make Jesus just fully
God and not fully man too, fail to see the scripture clearly when Jesus
was speaking as a man, and when he spoke as God.  Gordon MaGee
points out in his book, "Is Jesus in the Godhead or the Godhead in Jesus"
that Galatians 4:4 shows the humanity of Jesus.  He was born of a woman
by way of the Holy Ghost, and was made under the law.

Mark 12:32 states, "But of that day and that hour, knoweth no man, no not
the angels which are in Heaven, neither the Son, but the father."
If there is not a dual nature here, will someone please explain why
God would not know His own coming?  Let me answer, it is because
the son(humanity) took on the form of a servant, and as a servant,
does not always know what the master does.  This would also explain
why in Luke, Jesus increased in knowledge.  God has ALL power..and
scripture states that Jesus had all power, YET he increased in 
knowledge.  Why?  because it was refering to humanity.

Those who reject the dual nature of Jesus, also reject the
perfect sacrafice and example Jesus gave to us.  He gave
Himself as a example, by being the second Adam and
being obediant to the father's will, and becoming the perfect
sacrafice.

Next time you read the scripture, note all the references to
Jesus as a man, and note every human emotion and
reaction Jesus had.  

CD Sterrett


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