My Call? Shouldn't it be GOD'S Call?

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On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:39:05 EST Dunemus@aol.com writes:

BTW, why didn't you also include my other example?  That of a woman being
a "husband of one wife"?

A woman cannot be in the Will of God and have a wife...

>In a message dated 10/26/98 9:00:45 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>tlwitness@juno.com writes:
>
><< NOR
> can they "rule over their own house" (unless you are saying that the
> Bible is wrong when it states the head of the woman is man). >>
>     I don't have a lot of time (Got more things to do with my time 
>than write extremely detailed posts),  but I would like to address this
point.  
>Women are able to rule over there house.  Especially in the instance
that a man 
>is not present.  

Of course they are if there is not a man present.  What I am talking
about is in a married situation, surely you wouldn't suggest the woman
rule over the house, would you?

>     Since my Father passed away,  nearly  eight years ago,  my mother 
>hath ruled her house very well.  

The point is, she didn't rule it before he passed away, did she?  And I
don't like using personal examples, because people tend to get offended.

>     Even when a man is present in the home,  the woman has some say 
>so in the matters of the household.  For example,  my mother has been a
managed 
>at a bank (seems that some women have more knowledge and authority in
our 
>day than in those biblical times).  She can handle money very well.

I am not going to reference your mother as an example because I don't
want you to think that I am insulting your mother, but it doesn't matter
if your mother owned Microsoft, the Bible says that the man is supposed
to rule the house.

>She knows just where to put it and how to make it increase.  Therefore, 
in our home, 
> she ruled over the finances.  

Actually, as it is pertinent to this issue, she was given the finances to
be responsible over, although the husband did have the final say.

>     When we are dealing with the home,  the husband/man is the head 
>of the wife/woman.  But when it comes to the Church of the living God. 
Jesus 
>Christ is the man.  And he rules over his bride the church.  He makes
all of 
>the decisions.  We are simply obedient to his commands.  Thus he can use
a 
>man or a woman.  We are both considered his bride.  

As far as salvationally, that is true.  There is no difference, but you
continue to ignore the third chapter of 1 Timothy if you are saying that
there are no qualifications for those ministering to the Lord.

You also ignore the historical facts that neither Jesus nor the Apostles
allowed women to spiritually lead men.

>      To make it clear,  in natural relationships,  the husband is 
>ruler over the wife.  But when we are discussing the church,  Christ is
the 
>husbandmen.  And there is no male and female.  Only the bride of Christ.
 Men and 
>women can both be used to draw people to the kingdom and keep them in
line for 
>the goal of heaven.

That is not true, Brother.  Again and again and again, I specifically ask
for ONE example of Jesus or the Apostles setting a women as spiritual
leader over men, either in the Bible or history and again and again and
again I am
ignored.

Jerry Welch
ICQ: 18489712
www.geocities.com/Athens/Aegean/2810/

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