Brothers in Christ
Steve Starcher (stevstar@prodigy.net)
Thu, 29 Oct 1998 19:48:08 -0800
> Brother Clifton:
> Contrary to scriptures, calling people that do not follow the Word of
> God
> brethern is contrary to scriptures.
Brother Clifton, the Galatians had fallen from Grace!
In the OT if you were not
> circumcized
> I have never over looked this, in fact most Apostolics I know us that
> fact
> (as with the rest of the Epistles of Paul) as proof that salvation is
> not
> found there.
Paul is not speaking of Salvation in the Epistle to the Galatians? How
could Paul restore the Galatians to the Christian faith if he did not
talk about Salvation?
> It is important to note that Paul formed the chrurch(s) he writes to
> and as
> such know the with what Gospel that they were formed. Is a person that
> obeyed Acts 2:38 and has backslidden a brother? I think so....Paul
> called
> them that in Galations. But nowhere does he call people that deny the
> Word a
> brother.
The Galatians had followed "another Gospel". Is that denying the Word?
> Do you really read my posts or do you just like putting words in my
> mouth??
> Paul only taught ONE GOSPEL...if people that knew THAT ONE GOSPEL fell
> away
> he still considered them his brethern. However those that did not
> follow
> that ONE GOSPEL he never called brethern
Well, I'm confused here. If you know the Gospel and fall away you are
still a Brother. If you don't know the Gospel then you are not a
Brother. So we have two groups of people both not following Jesus
Christ. One group we can call Brothers in Christ and the other group we
cannot. I'm still confused?
> NOT TRUE....he does exactly what he should do, he sets them straight.
> He
> does not accept their "new found gospel" he chastizes them for it
> because he
> loves them and wants them saved.
Finally, Brother Clifton, we agree! Paul does the right thing! He
acknowledges the Christian faith they possess and attempts to restore
them to faith in Christ. And while they are in sin and error he calls
them his Brothers in Christ!
> Well by what I have heard as the definition of Fundamentalism, it
> seems he
> did.
What is your definition of Fundamentalism Brother Clifton?
He sure was not a ecumenical liberal!
What is your definition of an ecumenical liberal?
> I tire of this conversation on how bad Apostolic are because they
> stand firm
> upon a salvation doctrine that was taught by all the recorded
> Apostolic
> teachers and by the Lord Himself.
I want you to stand firm in your Apostolic beliefs Brother Clifton. Why
is acknowledging the presence of Christ in the lives of others so
damaging to your faith?
How we are bad for not playing
> footsies
> with the ecumenical movement and for not blindly accepting the
> followers of
> the Pagan church (the Roman Catholic Church) or the easy believers of
> the
> main stream Protestant movement.
These are clichés and stereotypes of other Christians Brother Clifton.
I hope to address those relating to Catholicism as I continue with my
posts.
I tire of your assumed arrogance to
> be
> better than us poor misguided Fundamentalist.
I apologize for any resemblance of arrogance I may have communicated in
my posts or in my responses to you Brother Clifton. As I study and
write these posts I do not feel any spiritual superiority, only humility
and love for my Apostolic faith and my fellow Apostolics. I think I
have said it before, but my posts are not intended to undermine the
Apostolic faith but to strengthen it. I hope that I can help stem the
tide of Apostolic assimilation into denominationalism by a
representation of the Apostolic faith in our contemporary context.
Your superiority because
> you
> rub shoulders with the denominal world and it doesn't affect your walk
> with
> the Lord (BTW - you believe they all are saved and heaven bound).
I feel no superiority Brother Clifton. In fact, I would rather attend a
good old fashion Apostolic worship service than any ecumenical service.
Also, I don't even believe that all Apostolics will be saved!
> However, I will not cease to rebuke your false teaching.
This is another epitaph used in Apostolic circles to instill fear in
others. I welcome your criticisms Brother. But please be kind!
I will not
> fence
> sit not be called luke warm. I will not back from the precious gospel
> of
> Jesus Christ because it makes people feel easier. I do not want them
> to feel
> easier...because without the truth....they will not see heaven!
And if my posts have stimulated your thought, caused you to pray and
study, then God has used them in a special way.
God Bless!
Steve