The Apostolic Dialogue with Catholics 6

• Messages sorted by:[ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ]

> 
> [Starcher]:
> >I believe this is true.  The theologies of Luke and Paul although
> >witnessing to the same reality are unique.  Where in the writings of
> >Luke do you find extensive treatments of justification of faith?
> 
> 
> [Starcher]:
>   Is not
> >Jesus the God who is calling them to salvation?  Is not Jesus the one
> >they are calling upon in faith?  Does not Jesus hear their prayers?  Is
> >not Jesus leading and guiding them by the Holy Spirit into truth? If all
> >of this is true, the are they not, in some way, experiencing the reality
> >of God's salvation?  If so, why not rejoice in the faith they possess
> >and not panic because their theology is different?


>   Are just we
> >defending a theological system and attempting to conform Christians into
> >its mold?  I really believe that the Apostolic Pentecostal reality
> >transcends any theological system, mine or yours!
> 
> 
> [Starcher]:
> >I think this is the crux of the the difference between me and you
> >Brother Matthew.  I affirm the salvation experiences of others without
> >feeling my Apostolic faith threatened.  From your presentations, and
> >that of others, I have compromised, or better departed, from the
> >Apostolic faith.
> 

Steve,

I appriciate your interest and respect for various theological systems,
but your conclusion have some pretty mind bending implications that you
might not have considered.

To start with theologian advocating most systems of salvation make no
effort to afix their theory to scripture (remeber most theology is
'dogmatic theology' or 'philosophical theology', or in the case of
catholicism 'traditional theology' and very little even claims to be
'biblical theology'.) So it is hard to claim that the bible is the basis
for these differing theologies.  Please explain why the bible is
unnessicery for the plan of salvation.

Second, how can their be different plans of salvation in the Bible if all
the disciples learned from Jesus.  Certainly if there were it would be
stated as such and we would not be sent around try to guess whos correct.
If the scriptures do not come from the teachings of Jesus we would be
fools to belive them.  Since you are arguing for multiple plans of
salvation you seem to be implying that the Apostles hid this from us by
confusing language that sounds pretty weird.

Third, secular scholars(including AL Fox and A Schwietzer) often find the
unique Apostolic plan of salvation in the writings of Paul and Luke.  I
would find it pretty strange if these people are trying to trick me.
Please explain why they trying to trick me.

I guess I realy don't believe I am threatend all those theologies out
there, after all it makes good reading, but after years of reading
theology I decided to follow the Bible.

But, atleast we can agree that:

> > the Apostolic Pentecostal reality
> >transcends any theological system, mine or yours!

		Love in the Perfect Name of Jesus,

		Yeaton Clifton (yhclifto@oakland.edu)