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MOO-Cows Digest           Friday, 2 February 1996      Volume 01 : Number 324

In this issue:

	Variables
	Ian Macintosh (no offense intendend if I spelt it wrong.)
	Verb Operation
	$user_connected()
	connection_name()
	Suggestion...
	login disconnects
	(no subject)
	MOO-Cows FAQ: Feb 01 1996
	Thanks and goodbye...
	Is the list still here?
	Re: CDA -=IMPORTANT=-
	CDA -=IMPORTANT=-
	[newbie wiz info]

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From: mcmudge@mailbox.syr.edu (Kipp the Kidd)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 11:00:07 -0800
Subject: Variables

I recently found a need for something that gives information about
variables, like, all the defined variables and their value, just for
debugging... and maybe something similar that can be put into a traceback.
Since I haven't seen any BFs that would define or do anything with a
variable, I guess it would be tough to write one...

I think it might have already been suggested...

- - Kipp
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` Kipp - Michael Mudge #     I like to live close to home    # Syracuse       !
`     Owner of MOO2000 #       moo.microwave.com 2000        # New York       !
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From: Edward Goff <egoff@iquest.com>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 11:45:52 -0800
Subject: Ian Macintosh (no offense intendend if I spelt it wrong.)

I'm looking for thatperson.. the one who made the patch for ansi  for 
1.7.8p4 ..wel it works for .1.7.9p2 but not for 1.8.0 so if your out ther 
Ian .. you working on an upgrade.. do you know thisproblem exists.. 
uhhh..are you going to do it..

excuse the typing just got up.. :)


thanks all

egoff@vespucci.iquest.com




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From: "John P. Wilson" <paladin@wavopt431.tbe.com>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 11:50:16 -0800
Subject: Verb Operation

Okay, say I am trying to open and close a container (#410) by using the 
following syntax and results:

;#410:("open")()
You open nothing.
=> 0
;#410.opened
=> 1
;#410:("close")()
You close nothing.
=> 0
;#410.opened
=> 0

I know that the "You open nothing." is from the  pronoun_sub on an
open message "You open %d.".  What arguments do I send or what do I
do get it to say "You open Object-Name." ?


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- - paladin@WavOpt431.tbe.com - John P. Wilson -
"Government is not reason or eloquence, it is power, and like fire
 can be a useful servant, or a fearful master." - George Washington





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From: Rich Connamacher <phantom@baymoo.sfsu.edu>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 14:53:37 -0800
Subject: $user_connected()

If #0:user_disconnected() is called for unlogged-in connections, then why 
isn't #0:user_connected() called for unlogged-in connections as well?

Phantom



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From: mcmudge@mailbox.syr.edu (Kipp the Kidd)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 17:57:57 -0800
Subject: connection_name()

Since the info 'PORT from ADDRESS, port PORT' is 99% of the time parsed into
ADDRESS, why not have connection_name() return
{address,LOCAL-PORT,REMOTE-PORT}?  Compare connection_name(x)[1] to the
longer match().

- - Kipp




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From: Richard Connamacher <phantom@baymoo.sfsu.edu>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 16:53:17 -0800
Subject: Suggestion...

Something just occoured to me that might be nice, a listappend 
operator...

l = {1, 2, 3};
l &= 4;
"l is now {1, 2, 3, 4}";

Perhaps a setremove operator would be nice too.  I'm just 
brainstorming here. :-)

This would greatly simplify lines that I'm always writing, like
$wiz_utils.programmer_restricted = 
listappend($wiz_utils.programmer_restricted, who);

Phantom



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From: jesse montrose <jesse@spine.com>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 21:34:34 -0800
Subject: login disconnects

Has anyone seen this?

>telnet trout 7777      
Connected to trout
Escape character is '^]'.
*** Disconnected ***
Connection closed by foreign host.

The moo is up and running, in fact, I have an active connection to it in
another window.

This has happened before, it does this for a while, then eventually accepts
new connections again.

Shutting the moo down and restarting works, but for obvious reasons, I'm
hoping there's another solution? :)

Thanks for any advice...
____________________________________________________________________
jesse montrose <jesse@spine.com> http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home
After seven years, I was sent home to my family.  Little man, I give
the watch to you.




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From: Cesar Henriques <mentor@bilobite.fe.up.pt>
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 09:46:29 -0800
Subject: (no subject)

subcsribe MOO-Cows.parc@xerox.com mentor@bilobite.fe.up.pt

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From: "Kenneth R. Fox" <fox@ccs.neu.edu>
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 14:42:33 -0800
Subject: MOO-Cows FAQ: Feb 01 1996

The regularly scheduled MOO-Cows FAQ mailing has been replaced with
a regularly scheduled MOO-Cows FAQ pointer mailing.

You can find the MOO-Cows FAQ 
  in HTML at http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/fox/moo/moofaq.html
  in flat text, DVI, and postscript in the directory
     ftp://ftp.ccs.neu.edu/pub/mud/docs/faqs/

This pointer is mailed out monthly.

- ---
Ken Fox
Maintainer of the MOO-Cows FAQ
Please address comments and questions about the FAQ to fox@ccs.neu.edu



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From: PILOSOF AVI <avi.pilosof@tafensw.edu.au>
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 15:04:00 -0800
Subject: Thanks and goodbye...

Well, my work here is done.

I finally managed to learn enough about MOOs to program a full booking 
system for my workplace, and it is time for me to leave, returning to my uni 
holidays :)

I'd like to thank this list for being so cool, and helping me with so many 
problems.

Perhaps my successor wizard will join the list, but I doubt it.

Thanks again, and have a good one.

Avi



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From: hpa@trantor.storm.net (H. Peter Anvin)
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 18:41:51 -0800
Subject: Is the list still here?

I haven't received anything since the first digest, so I wanted to
verify the list was still operating properly...

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From: Martian <martian@elysian.net>
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 20:59:57 -0800
Subject: Re: CDA -=IMPORTANT=-

Martian wrote:
> [I'm sending this to everyone in my address book.]

Er.. _DREDFULLY_ sorry about that. Forgot these two were in that list.

        <Hanging head in shame>



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From: Martian <martian@elysian.net>
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 20:55:35 -0800
Subject: CDA -=IMPORTANT=-

[I'm sending this to everyone in my address book.]

The following is a list of links to articles about the death of the internet.

Yes, folks, the Communications Decency Act passed. 414-16 in the house, 91-5 in the senate. I 
figure, if you don't already know about this, then you probably don't read my messages anyway.

The begining of the end? Possibly. The question is.. What do we do about it?

 - Martian

- -----

http://www.cnn.com/US/9602/telecom_passage/index.html
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washdc/ncs16.htm
http://www1.trib.com/WIRE/CURRENT/wash/WASHINGTON__Legislation_to_ove.html

- -----


- -- 
 ____    ____  Martian                   (Wizard) Martian #141 @ MidgardMOO
|    \  /    | martian@elysian.net           telnet://moo.elysian.net:8888 
|  +-\\//-+  | awsmyth@mccoy.cs.twsu.edu         Martian #96675 @ LambdaMOO
|  |  \/  |  | themartian@aol.com           telnet://lambda.xerox.com:8888 
|__|artian|__|                          http://wwwhome.elysian.net/~martian



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From: lpolin@pepperdine.edu (Linda Polin)
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 02:22:52 -0800
Subject: [newbie wiz info]

I'm sending this to MOO-Cows in hopes of garnering participation by select
wise ole wizardly types who would be willing to occasionally lend us newbs
assistance on our own "turf" described below.

Fellow Newbs and Interested Others:

Our newbie wiz group had a small but happy and successful first meeting on
the 31st. We decided to s et up a majordomo list, archives, and a web page
with pointers to the archives, the newbie archwiz faq, and sundry points of
interest. (A cleaned up and somewhat edited for brevity transcript is
available from me now, eventually via the web page  below.)

We agreed to initiate a group-blessed list of cool, functional, documented
generics...sometime and somehow.
We agreed to meet regularly on the last wed of every month in a different MOO.

Thanks to Jay,
MOO-Calves majordomo list will be:  moo-calves@ccat.sas.upenn.edu
the archives will be at:
gopher://ccat.sas.upenn..edu:70/11/journals/moo-calves/archives

Thanks to Ryan,
the web site will be at: http://www.teleport.com/~rday/moo-calves.html

Please help make this a vital, friendly, and enduring working group. Hope
to "see" you at the next meeting, Feb. 28 at PennMOO, more info to follow I
imagine.

Linda P.


Linda Polin, Ph.D.
Associate Professor of Education,
Director, MA in Education & Teacher Crendential Programs
Pepperdine University - Grad Sch of Education & Psych
400 Corporate Pointe, Culver City, CA 90230
internet: lpolin@pepperdine.edu
http://moon.pepperdine.edu/~lpolin/lpolin.html
FAX: 310-568-5755  





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